vehicles on site during the festival "to be or not to be"
So we are keen to reduce vehicle activity on site during the festival i.e. Tuesday morning until Monday. This is because:
1) the main road through the site this year is the promenade for theme camps and where everyone will be walking (the promenade has been moved because last year there was two much damage to the grass)
2) reducing or not allowing vehicle traffic is safer and in line with how most festival events are run
3) the site owners do not want lots of vehicle traffic on site
To be clear, vehicles can drive in and out of free camping at the top of the site as much as they like whenever they like. The restriction applied only for driving down the hill into the main site.
Saying no vehicle on site at all during the event is probably not feasible - so what is the middle way?
Let's get down to some constructive problem solving and come up with a solution
proposed solutions so far
1) an on site vehicle pass for theme camps dropping off supplies or equipment and people with accessibility needs
2) a shuttle van making trips from the free camping area to the main site
3) a shuttle cart
4) drive wherever the fuck you like and hope you run over some children while you're at it
5) Unfortunately PETA got wind of our donkey solution and convinced the donkey's to go on strike - nooooo :(
The poll to the right has some options for people to vote on, plus the option to add new ideas.
Decisions need to be reached by 29th of April not later
Adrian Godwin Sat 27 Apr 2019 2:01PM
It's not a bad principle but it assumes too much about the vehicle / driver. Of course, there will always be edge cases and you don't have to have a solution that solves them all, but you do need to find a workaround where needed.
So here's an edge case to review (not just strawman but a real problem) : A vehicle with one driver, some disability, no camp. Where do they get their escort ? phone a friend (if they have one available on site ? if there's phone coverage ?) ? From the ranger pool ? Kidnap a passing hippie ?
Overall, I think a red-flag escort is overkill. By all means ban speeders and restrict access, but when 99% of drivers will respect the limit, it creates more problems than it solves
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Iona Steen Fri 26 Apr 2019 8:32AM
totally agree
Iona Steen Sun 28 Apr 2019 10:33PM
Ok tomorrow morning is the deadline for the
decision on vehicle access on site
Thanks everyone for your input it was a very solution focused discussion.
It looks like the most popular solution was to have vehicle pass, which we will issue for theme camps and those with accessibility needs.
We will look at closing vehicle access to site Tuesday evening rather than Tuesday morning
in the mean time Paul had very kindly being liaising with Alex (the site owner) and has got permission to use the back entrance (ie approaching from the Manor ), which will reduce traffic on the main promenade and also we have been given permission to drive on the grass.
We will release details of how the vehicle passes will work in the coming weeks
Lexy Thu 9 May 2019 6:29PM
Hi, can we have a public statement on the final decision of this on this thread so everyone knows the conclusion?
Maybe update original post - not sure best way to communicate this on Loomio!
Thanks!!
Paul Phare Fri 10 May 2019 7:39AM
It has been decided that movement of vehicles will be restricted from noon on Tuesday May 21st until the following Monday morning. Anyone arriving at Gate between these times will be asked to park in the upper free camping field and if they want to join their camp will have to carry their stuff down to the Glade.
Those bringing camp infrastructure, people with accessibility needs or campervans that are joining their camps will be given a vehicle pass when they arrive at Gate and issued instructions for accessing the site. However this will only be possible between the hours of 8am to 6pm. If you arrive outside these hours you will have to wait.
Paul
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Stephen Brannigan Fri 10 May 2019 4:33PM
Thanks for the clarification!
Siren Tue 30 Apr 2019 9:55AM
As far as i know, we are not at all allowed to use the front entrance. Sam will be better placed to confirm, but this was a clear stipulation last year.
Ax Wed 8 May 2019 11:08AM
Will we be okay receiving a large water delivery on Wednesday 22nd or Thursday 23rd?
Paul Phare Wed 8 May 2019 12:38PM
Have you considered where the water is going to be located so people can pick it up? It was at the upper free camping site last year. If it's the same this year then no problem as it's accessible before Gate
Paul
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Dean · Fri 26 Apr 2019 8:21AM
Camp Crumpet lead here. I'm with the Dead Insides in that I think the cut-off date for free vehicle access should be later, perhaps end of Tuesday. After that maybe vehicle passes and/or access via the back entrance.
It seems like a lot of stress on the rangers to accompany vehicles, and it's hardly a complicated job. Could we not just say that any vehicle given a pass has to also supply someone to walk in front of the vehicle in high vis? (with a central supply of jackets that accompany the passes)