OVNs and expenses

Tibi, I think using loomio for these discussion is a great step forward, because there is a way to actually make the decision democratically. Well done.

If we took the last months, which % would be needed to cover the costs ? Shouldn't the question be about how to generate revenue from commercial and non commercial activities ? Is there a strategy about the financial sustainability of CAKE ?

Fabio, that is a very important question, but a very different
one. I encourage you to post it in a different discussion and invite others to contribute. Maria was concerned only about the 5% "tax" and I promised to put that on Loomio. We can't solve all SENSORICA's problems in one Loomio discussion : ) Let's take them one at the time.

Fabio's first question about what % would be needed to cover the costs is actually right on target of the topic. It would be good information to know based on recent income, what would have been needed.

I understood it differently. The first question is just introducing a perceived distance from my question and the current needs of SENSORICA. From what I understood, Fabio's questions are
"Shouldn’t the question be about how to generate revenue from commercial and non commercial activities ?"
"Is there a strategy about the financial sustainability of CAKE ?"
But I'll let Fabio react.
All the info about revenue is transparent in SENSORICA, you can find it here
http://www.sensorica.co/home/building-sensorica/revenues
if not up to date, ask someone, myself or other, to put it up to date.
I would like to do this in the NRP-VAS, but please don't ask me why I don't ...

@tiberiusbrastavice : you wrote, "I would like to do this in the NRP-VAS, but please don’t ask me why I don’t …"

I'll bite. Why don't you? Please include suggestions for improvement that would cause you to want to do so. (I understand that this is off-topic for this discussion, so elsewhere...)

Haha, I love the fact we can ''Like'' comments here, unlike email.. I read most emails but I don't reply much, at least here you all can see I'm following :) what I like and what I don't :)

The 5% doesn't cut it right now. If I made 10K$/month I'd give 500$ for rent etc, and if other people make money and pay the 5% we could make it. But right now we don't, I don't make 10K$/month.. Theoretically I could and I should.
So should we rise the 5% to whatever % it takes to cover Lab expenses? then I'd pay the Rent and use of the 3D printers and there would be no more for me.
And what about money from membership, etc, it's for the same purpose...
Eventually, when one day we're many members and with lots of commercial activity, the % will shrink to negligeable. But what do we do now?

I understand Fabios' question as: let's look at the bills and what money comes in from commercial activity and see how to adjust that % to cover the expenses...
and when we look, we realize there isn't enough people with commercial activity around and not many people paying member fees..
Problem solved, we should not rise the % but encourage more people to do commercial activity and help them do it.
And also encourage more people to pay the fees.

Or we can rise the % to acceptable levels, up to 15% and adjust it as more people start doing commercial activity and make $. More than 20% is still acceptable but would discourage people to do their activity in the Network if they can do it from home..