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Tue 2 Dec 2014 12:09PM

NEW blog for diaspora*

DU riderplus Public Seen by 195

Remember www.diasporial.com? Of course you do. Unfortunately the blog is not being updated any longer. We need to make diaspora* development possible, and we need to get involved. Not all of us are programmers, but we can write and promote this social network. We need to organize ourselves and do the following: 1. promote the new blog (blog.diasporafoundation.org) where anyone can share info, promote diaspora* in as many ways as possible, call on volunteer programmers; 2. move the content of the old www.diasporial.com to the new blog; 3. avoid trolling and keep being positive about it ;)
P.S. Please remind me if I missed something and feel free to jump right in :)

You can also check this thread https://www.loomio.org/d/x9VBan3j/diaspora-foundation-site-proposal about the new diaspora* website and https://www.loomio.org/d/rIUqBLWH/project-domain-name for the domain name. But what about the blog? Should the new blog contain the old diasporial blog content?

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Rich Tue 2 Dec 2014 9:30PM

Sorry mate, but I have absolutely no idea what you're on about.

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riderplus Tue 2 Dec 2014 9:33PM

Hi Rich,
Thank you for your comment. Maybe I wasn't very clear on the proposal. I suggested that we could move the content of the old www.diasporial.com to the new blog, that is blog.diasporafoundation.org. If you agree on this, please vote (like a) pro :)

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Rich Wed 3 Dec 2014 10:05AM

Ok, I understand now.

But what about these: https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials

?

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riderplus Wed 3 Dec 2014 12:30PM

Those are where they should be. The problem is with the old blog, we need to have its content on the new blog (in my opinion).

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riderplus Wed 3 Dec 2014 4:45PM

That's the kind of social media behavior that I personally disagree with:
1 day ago:
Dennis Schubert blocked the initial proposal: We already do have https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/, so this question is invalid. Please create a new proposal asking if we should port the old diasporial posts to our blog.
15 minutes ago:
Dennis Schubert disagreed: We have great stuff on https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials and most of the articles on diasporial are outdated, there is no reason to copy them.
So @dennisschubert why would you want me to change the proposal to something that you don't agree with in the first place? Just so you can click the disagree button afterward? I guess it would have been more respectful of you to tell me that you don't like the idea in the first place so that I could delete the proposal!

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Dennis Schubert Wed 3 Dec 2014 5:03PM

to tell me that you don’t like the idea in the first place so that I could delete the proposal

Deleting a proposal because somebody does not like it is not a great idea since we're trying to have democratic votes.

The first proposal was useless, a discussion about if we should have a blog or not is invalid since there is already a blog. Blocking the first proposal was simply a housekeeping task (remember, I'm one of the core members and somebody has to do the job, we would have a huge mess here otherwise).

My vote against adopting the old diasporial.com posts is a simple vote, not a block. That's my opinion and it will not affect the result of this proposal since my vote is nothing special. If there are more "agree" positions, we will adopt the posts.

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riderplus Wed 3 Dec 2014 5:18PM

Let me comment on your statements a bit (without markdown):
1. "The first proposal was useless, a discussion about if we should have a blog or not is invalid since there is already a blog...Blocking the first proposal was simply a housekeeping task (remember, I’m one of the core members and somebody has to do the job, we would have a huge mess here otherwise)." - so this is useless, fair enough;
2. "Deleting a proposal because somebody does not like it is not a great idea, since we’re trying to have democratic votes." - and my second proposal is not useless, though you disagree with it and specify clearly (in your own words): "We have great stuff on https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials and most of the articles on diasporial are outdated, there is no reason to copy them." And that's not saying that the second proposal is useless...no, not at all, it's just "not relevant". By the way, what was your criterion for claiming that the firs proposal was useless? Did you ask other users? I didn't see that...maybe they would have liked to see a new blog separated from the diaspora* main website, but you never asked, did you?

I'm sorry to say this, but you're far from distinguishing between relevance and irrelevance. But please pay some respect to how others spend their time, since we are a community and (I think) we deserve some honest replies.
Thank you for your understanding.

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goob Wed 3 Dec 2014 6:27PM

I disagree that the blog posts from diasporial should be ported to the official project blog, because diasporial was never an official project blog itself - it was a community resource run by a community member.

There was an official blog, the posts from which are still contained on Github - porting those to the new blog would be more appropriate, but I'm not convinced that even that would be necessary, because they are very out-of-date.

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riderplus Wed 3 Dec 2014 6:40PM

Thank you for your vote, @goob. The idea of porting it has historical backup, not "technicalities". My idea was that we could conjoin the old info with the new one for the sake of diaspora* s blogging history.

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Deleted account Wed 3 Dec 2014 6:46PM

@riderplus : But, when you talked about this on IRC, it was not only about adoupting diasporial.com, right ?

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