This year the dates on the tickets show Nest ending Sunday 5th June. The assumption is therefore this is the day most members will leave site, and therefore people are expecting to go to work on Monday.
In 2018 tickets also showed that the end of the event was a Sunday (10th June in that case). The temple burn was held on Sunday night and therefore lots of people (almost certainly including most newbies who didn't know that temple burn is traditionally a Sunday) missed this key community event.
To avoid a similar situation, I propose that that the burns are held Friday and Saturday evenings. (Or alternatively the dates on the tickets be changed to finish on Monday, and this to happen fast as holiday bookings are already going in)
Flix Goncalez Wed 23 Feb
Personally, Sunday is symbolic, relating to the end of the week, a poignant and significant reference to the final act of a global community in celebration, metaphoric and meditative, it’s ritual, oddly now part of my psyche but somehow this day, importantly connects me to the pattern and Sunday Temple Burn ritual at Blackrock.
Roofie Wed 23 Feb
There seems to be confusion over the dates of the event. That is what needs addressing, not the format of the event it is in that format for a reason. It has always been a Mon-Mon event and Temple has always burned Sunday. The culture must be preserved.
Jen Evans Tue 22 Feb
I imagine many people (myself included) will need to leave on Sunday to get home for work or other commitments - doing the burns Fri/Sat means everyone can participate and also be around for at least some of strike on the Sunday
Philip Whittaker Tue 22 Feb
I'm lucky as I can come off-site Monday, however I appreciate the issue so I also have no problem for the alternative solution.
Dani Mon 21 Feb
With Thursday as a Bank Holiday as well, Friday could easily be a big party night. Do temple burn Saturday at sunset, we can heal and reflect, use that temple energy to be grateful, then turn it around to party town with the weight lifted and a feeling of community connection ❤️ then a nice drive home Sunday afternoon for work on Monday!
Case Wed 9 Feb
I having the temple on Saturday "shortens" the festival by one day the tickets and comms should say that it ends on Monday rather than everyone being off site Sunday as has been communicated. Third option: have the temple burn first
Lexy Wed 9 Feb
Monday is not a bank holiday this year so makes most of Thur/Fri bank holidays. Also I believe Fri also has late licence or at least can be requested in the TEN application.
Alison Forrester Wed 9 Feb
Tripping hippies around the fire is dangerous. People tend to have their big trip on Fridays.
Paul Taylor Wed 9 Feb
Tickets on Quicket (at least) say the event ends 5pm Sunday, which I think most people have taken to mean 'all off site by this time unless you are assisting with Strike'. Assuming this is untrue based on discussions here, then prefer to stick with the usual days for the burns to fit with late licence etc. Please can Comms push out clarification on when the event ends and update Quicket.
Alex Macklen Wed 9 Feb
I don't see a reason to move them. Everyone gets an extra day off which I'll take on Monday and complete strike and head off in the day, its a fairly long drive in my van don't want to drive in the dark. We should all be done by then no problem.
Allan Wed 9 Feb
Vote changed to Effigy Sat & Temple Sun as we don't actually need to be off-site till Mon. So there doesn't seem now to be a reason to make any change to the usual practice of Temple burn on Sun.
Perhaps we just need to emphasise more the actual dates we need to be off-site inorder to ensure people plan their leaving date & don't mistakenly rush off before the Temple burn.
Lucy Wed 9 Feb
I’d be ok with either, but my preference is Temple burn on Sun. Sat night is party night :) However, if everyone has to be off site by Sunday, then not many people will be able to make it for the Temple burn as it’ll be a late drive back for a lot of folks… which isn’t fun when you’re hanging. Even if people do take Sunday off work, if there’s nowhere to camp then they’d have to go home anyway. Is there anywhere for people camp on the Sunday night?
Paul Phare Wed 9 Feb
I agree with the Links that the party night should be on Saturday with the Effigy Burn and Sunday night Temple as usual. We should make sure newbies understand that this will be happening and they may need to take Monday off work
Ali Puddle Wed 9 Feb
Am I being bananas, or don't we have to be off site by EOD on the Sunday? Don't understand how we would burn and strike if effigy sat and temple sun?
xavier dubruille Wed 9 Feb
EDIT TO EXPAND MY REASONING :
1) Friday is cabaret day!
2) thw jmportance of the temple as a place and not only a burn .... the temple us a place to meditate and also to remember the departed souls (and god knows how many left these last two years, if we burn on friday, it will be only ashes(also bad for really late arrival)
3) quick 'cause limit temple burn is ultimate thing, it is time to recollect all memories and connection made in we.
Entropy Wed 9 Feb
I would not change the burn day of the Effigy. I would leave that on Saturday. If people do not want to miss the temple burning, maybe the temple can burn on Friday.
Poll Created Wed 9 Feb
Burn days Closed Tue 1 Mar
Response from Links with regard to changing the days for Effigy and Temple Burn
A discussion was held between the Links to take a view on how the proposal might affect our plans. While we all understand the issue, a number of points in response to the proposal were rasied:
We have a late licence for Saturday night and it's usual a big party night. The Temple Burn is a quiet, contemplative event and usually closes the festival. It might therefore feel a bit odd for people to pick up the party after the Temple Burn.
The proposal will effecitvely shorten the festival by one day
It would provide more people to help with Strike on the Sunday
Please can folks respond to this and it will be picked up again at the next Links meeting
|Results||Option||% of points||Voters|
||Effigy Saturday & Temple Sunday||55.8%||29||M AF J E L PP JD PW R SL P|
||Effigy Friday & Temple Saturday||44.2%||23||A C JC|
|Undecided||0%||114||B AG D NP MM S B L MH AH A AP JC RS L D K J K J M L DU R T W D T M KR|
52 of 166 people have voted (31%)