Loomio
Fri 3 Oct 2014 5:02AM

What could a single, global democracy look like? How would it work?

PS Peter Schurman Public Seen by 46

Would a representative or direct democracy make more sense?

What about liquid democracy? See: http://youtu.be/fg0_Vhldz-8

What checks and balances should we have?

What basic rights should be guaranteed to everyone?

PS

Peter Schurman Wed 14 Jan 2015 10:30PM

David - Here's some recent news on advances in real-time language translation, enabled by technology.

http://readwrite.com/2015/01/12/google-microsoft-language-translation

DB

Daniel Blewitt Sat 11 Apr 2015 5:19PM

Hi guys,

I've sort of been developing my own material and theories in isolation, and only slowly being shown the wider community around this subject.

Heres one video I did exploring the current economic breakdown of a Singular state;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga9f-BiqQ8g

DRK

Dr. Roger Kotila Tue 28 Apr 2015 9:46PM

The Earth Federation Movement has the advantage of having the Earth Constitution: It's the "gold standard" for the establishment of a democratic world federal union government: World Parliament, Judiciary with enforcement, World Ombudsmus, Human & Earth Rights. The Earth Constitution is designed to replace the undemocratic UN Charter. Fix the fatally inadequate UN, or replace it with Earth Federation government under the Earth Constitution.

GP

Germà Pelayo Fri 25 Mar 2016 5:32PM

Dear friends,

Given that this is just a space of discussion and not a consolidated group, I want to explain my interest in being here. I am ready to discuss and work with people around the world, whether from this list or others lists out there, who believe both in “real” post-representative democracy and in the need of a global and cross-scale subsidiary democratic system for everyone.

I am interested in:

  • Starting a small group of studies for listing and comparing the different models and experiences of post-representative democracy and for thinking about complex logistics for combining and implementing them at a global and multi-scale level.

  • Starting a world citizen’s assembly working firstly through e-forums (example: reddit forums or maybe loomio like this one) in which people can discuss and self-organize in topic-based and territory-based circles around the world, and later spread and split to more groups including physical meetings networking among them in order to become an international citizen movement.

  • If such network and movement is successful and one day becomes large enough, it could consider appropriate to become a counter-power to the current system and to consider itself legitimate enough to involve in actions leading to an operative, powerful and complete global-scale political and systemic change.

Personally I am not interested in discussing about the following items, (even if I can change my mind later, depending on the arguments I read) :

  • Whether representative government is better or not that advanced post-representative democracy in its many variants as deliberative, direct, or by lot democracy, and others (i. e. liquid democracy as a transitional model), and its combinations and differences in every part of the world (1). I believe that is not and I am interested in joining only with people who believe the same. I believe that representative governments are not democratic at all for the simple reason that the political parties and governments work first for themselves, second for those who paid them and only third or sometimes never, for their voters and the rest of citizens. (2)

  • Whether politics are separated from economy or not, so that a project for global political transformation should not discuss about economic governance. It should discuss about it, in my opinion. Whether the future economic system is capitalist in any of its variants, communist, socialist (social-democracy), anarchist, “buen vivir”, “common-good economy”, or others, or a combination of some of them, or there are several systems by region, country and community… in all these cases it should be the people who decides democratically what economic system or systems they want, and not the current elites or any other minority, to impose them in a violent way (including the fact of owning the monopoly of violence).

  • Whether is better or not to first to implement advanced democracies at a local level instead of global, regional, etc. My point of view is that every scale is good to start with, so than later we can connect the dots among the good experiences from different levels through building a bottom-up subsidiary structure. So I am interested in a “glocal” advanced democracy agenda and interested in working with people who have the same vision of simultaneity. We need to transform every scale of governance, including global, and keep this glocal vision even if each one of us is more interested in a given scale or a given country.

  • Whether a model based in uniformity is better than one based in plurality (exemple: English language to become the only common working language, as pointed by Daniel Blewitt in his video), because simply it’s not. There are some basic common principles that we can define maybe from the very beginning, and one of them in my opinion is keeping diversity as a common goal, instead of uniformity, (i.e. not eliminating diversity in the name of a supposed efficiency. Public institutions have worse problems than efficiency, namely corruption and excess of hierarchy).

So I am interested in looking for people who share these same principles more or less, in order to start working together. In short the principles exposed before are:

  1. Real (post-representative) democracy
  2. Economy subjected to people’s decisions
  3. Glocal strategy
  4. Integral diversity.

But I am open to discuss about the rest of important topics (i. e. inequalities, finances, weapon industry and disarmament, solidarity, rights, resources, food, energy, science, religion, ethics, environment, gender, identities, etc. etc.)

And I will keep participating here as far as I have time for it, whether other members of this list agree or not with my points.

I participated in the past in the WP21 e-forum co-ordination (2002-2004) (3) and in other global democracy initiatives. I am currently a team member of the rising World Democratic Forum (WDF) (4) whose plans are not exactly the same as the ones I am exposing here, even if they could converge sometime in the future. I believe that the time has come for envision and conceive a political system that takes the best from every culture and contributes to a world for humans and the nature and not for the privileged 1% anymore.

Best regards to everyone,
Germà

(1) http://is.gd/DBm5YC (“Politics without Politicians”, in Catalan only)
(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoP_mSIHqTY (English subtitled in settings)
(3) http://allies.alliance21.org/wp/en/accueil.html
(4) http://fdm.world-governance.org/en

GP

Germà Pelayo Fri 25 Mar 2016 9:00PM

By the way I want to say that I've talked a little bit about myself because I find nice to approach other people while knowing a little bit about them. Not in order of sending the message that I am better or worst that anyone. I hope not to create misunderstandings on this.

JB

Jim Barton Sat 26 Mar 2016 2:56PM

I found the personal background more than helpful. Oftimes, these discussions occur as if in some Platonic philosophy seminar. I'm more interested in theory as it has some kind of real world presence: What organizations formed, and what did they actually do?

Anyone can write a thought-piece on what would happen if pigs could fly. Once you actually have some airborne hotdogs, then you've got my attention.

Would you want to have a skype call?

DB

Daniel Blewitt Mon 28 Mar 2016 6:40AM

Hello Everyone,

We will be launching the crowdfund for the Unitary Republic of Humankind on the 31st of March, it'll be live on Kickstarter.

The funding will be for a documentary about what we're trying to accomplish, but also about the general 'unity environment' and all the organisations that have appeared over the past 50 years.

The rest of the URH and myself will be looking to put the concept and the question of unification on the political map. Not just for politico's and academics but everybody, which is the greatest step the ideas we're sharing can take.

I'll be posting links to it almost everywhere once it launches, however I thought I'd give this community a heads up before we went live.

Look forward to seeing more of you all soon.

Best,
Daniel

GP

Germà Pelayo Tue 29 Mar 2016 1:54PM

Hi Jim,
Well I think we are in a moment of history where everything can be useful or not, ideas and actions, depending on how they help to mobilize people for the change as well as to actually organize a changed society. I am not interested, and I think I am not the only one, in fighting for a kind of change so that nothing changes at the end. I wonder if French or American revolutionaries knew in advance, thanks to local experiments, if their system worked or not.
Best,

GP

Germà Pelayo Tue 29 Mar 2016 1:56PM

I am available in skype (name germap)

DU

William Asiata Tue 23 Jan 2018 12:19AM

Kia ora everyone, I am just going to leave this here.

I am doing some market research to learn more about what people need and to get feedback for a liquid-like democratically owned social network idea.
If you have a spare moment please fill out this survey questionnaire, I would love to hear your thoughts & comments and any feedback is much appreciated.
Survey: https://manytribes.typeform.com/to/hHgf6J

Many Thanks,
— William

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