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Mon 7 Oct 2019 10:26PM

Re-balance contributions to HL++

C cstewart000 Public Seen by 35

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Hackland and HL++ are operated under separate leases. Hackland memberships subsidise the weekly rent.

Resident contributions at HL++ were set high to enable HL++ to be launched. Now that there is adequate monies coming in from regular member contributions we would like to have the contribution re-balanced to make things fairer.

Hackland membership fees currently account for $265 of $1,050 weekly rent for HL ++

We are seeking that this contribution increase $50/week to $315 per week for use of the workshop in the short term.

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Poll Created Mon 7 Oct 2019 10:29PM

Increase contribution to HL++ by $50/week Closed Mon 21 Oct 2019 10:02PM

Agreeing will mean that an additional $50/week from memberships will go towards paying rent of 48c (HL++). Disagreeing will keep contributions heavily biased to residents.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 90.0% 9 MC ST C RC KS HM S T JW
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 10.0% 1 JK
Undecided 0% 41 B DO H JVD JH S JS K CG J J HS BF SC JL K DP DR MS

10 of 51 people have participated (19%)

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Jorån Kikke
Block
Sat 12 Oct 2019 11:01PM

I wish it to be first clarified under what rules Hackland is leasing the HL+++ space (though I am in favour of these contributions to be fair)

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Tom
Agree
Wed 16 Oct 2019 11:15PM

Which bits are unclear?

JK

Poll Created Sat 12 Oct 2019 11:11PM

Under what model do we want Hackland+++ to run? Closed Tue 15 Oct 2019 11:02PM

Outcome
by Jorån Kikke Wed 16 Oct 2019 12:03AM

Great ideas, thanks for taking part, here's my attempt at a summary from this:

1) lets have some irl meetings, I think this is universally a good idea

2) lets make the 6 hour rule clearer no matter what - it's not super clear what you should do or that you're responsible for putting stuff back

3) people are generally in favour for both sides of the space running the same (?)

4) area champions / teams

5) people are not in favour of one persion having control over the whole side

There exists an unwritten difference in the way each building operates - lets try and codify how we want +++ to operate (we could experiment with different models there if we want)

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
As similar to how HL1 operates as possible 34.8% 8  
Have multiple benevolent dictators (work area champions) for each discipline - ie a champion for fabric, casting, metalwork, electronics area etc so each space is maintained 21.7% 5  
Amend 6hr rule to include encourage discussion before change is done 21.7% 5  
Maybe have the occasional meeting (irl) where people can discuss major changes, pitch ideas etc etc.... 17.4% 4  
Entirely rented project spaces - no general member access 4.3% 1  
Benevalont Dictator - one persion can guide the formation of this part of the space into what they feel is best 0.0% 0  
anarchy 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 0  

14 of 14 people have participated (100%)

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Anonymous Sat 12 Oct 2019 11:30PM

As similar to how HL1 operates as possible

I thing being able to change the space is a core value of the Hackland thing

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Anonymous Sun 13 Oct 2019 1:04AM

What’s Hackland+++, is it the same as Hackland++? Can’t find another way to comment on a poll.

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cstewart000 Sun 13 Oct 2019 12:21AM

I am postponing (If I can figure out how) until the definition of HL++ running is clarified. Under which this discussion is to be persued.

JK

Poll Created Wed 16 Oct 2019 12:17AM

Clearer 6 hour rule Closed Wed 23 Oct 2019 12:03AM

I propose changing the rule to read as shown here: https://github.com/HakLand/Constitution/pull/5/files

"Change and experimentation is more than welcome, even if you’re not sure how it will end up, but if any change to the space would take longer than 6 hours for you to put back as it was, please create a loomio proposal before doing it.

If people do not like the changes you have made, they may undo them or ask that you help put things back to how they were - it's therefore a good idea to first ask people and get them onboard with the changes.

Also, you can use anything in the space for anything you’d like - parts or as part of another project - but if it has a DO NOT HACK sticker on it please leave it alone because it’s probably important."

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 7 B MC JK H ST KS HM
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 45 DO TA JVD JH S JS K CG J J HS BF SC JL K DP DR C MS

7 of 52 people have participated (13%)

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Jorån Kikke
Agree
Wed 16 Oct 2019 12:17AM

Slightly clearer so yay