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Diaspora* "Post Killer Button" | Tidy up servers and give users control

DU
[deactivated account] Public Seen by 80

Hi,

In every social network I've ever used there is something missing: A post kill button. You can delete every single post, but what about deleting all my posts of the past year(s)?

Wouldn't it be great if you had the possibility to define a timespan like 2011-2013 and just hit the "Kill" Button and all your Posts and Photos created in this time were deleted from the servers?

We are always collecting data. Gigabyte after gigabyte, but do not think about the relevance of the posts. We could save tons of resources just by deleting stuff nobody needs anymore. Social network posts have an extremely short lifetime. Why should we have so much trash on our pods?

The second point is: Personalities change. You change your opinion, your attitude... maybe you do not want to have posts on the internet which express your identity of the past?

It would be awesome if Diaspora* was the first social network in which you are able to erase your past and tidy up your profile, as well as tidying up the servers. Every user should have the chance to select a certain timespan and delete the content generated at this time.

In conclusion a killer button would help to:
- Free resources on the servers
- Give People control
- Delete content of the past

This is a feature, which I think people want to have. I would like to have it, too ;) It would make Diaspora* stand out of the big crowd of social networks.

Users want to have control. Give them control.

M

morgenstern March 26th, 2014 16:45

Great idea, i like it! Posts more the 1 year old are useless IMHO.

theradialactive

theradialactive March 26th, 2014 17:20

I like the idea, but I don't think, that 1 year old posts are useless. I would like to see a "collect posts" feature before, so when I have a really nice and interesting post or debate, I could save that.

Waithamai

Waithamai March 26th, 2014 17:33

older posts are not useless in diaspora*..
they would be useless perhaps if diaspora* was a "social" network like fb where you post personal stuff - it is not useless with diaspora*'s theme-based posting .. if you search for not so popular tags you'll always find pretty old posts - there wouldn't be many posts left if users just deleted their old posts.. (and i love scrolling through tags pages)
another thing is about reshares. if somebody deletes all their older posts, there will be lots of posts left that say 'the original post has been deleted' .. right, we already have that, as one can scroll through the stream and just click delete on each post .. but there would be a lot more of it if somebody deleted all posts of a certain period..

DU

[deactivated account] March 26th, 2014 17:49

@waithamai this would be no problem if the "resharing" posts were deleted at the same time - together with the original post. ;)

When a person decides to let the older posts live, it's okay, but shouldn't the user have the decision to delete his content if he wants to?

S.M. Al Mamun

S.M. Al Mamun March 26th, 2014 18:44

Nice Idea. Even sometimes people might want to forget some of their public activity for a certain amount of time. So, a custom duration for that post killer button would be more awesome, I think.

Of course, it's user's personal choice whether he wants to delete something or not!

DU

[deactivated account] started a proposal March 28th, 2014 06:05

Should we introduce a "Post Killer Button"? Closed 3:08pm - Wednesday 23 Apr 2014

YES:
I like the idea of having a button whichs allows me to delete all my posts of a certain time period. Decisions about the details will be discussed later. (Preview of the posts etc)

NO:
I don't want to have a button like this.

Results
Agree - 13
Abstain - 12
Disagree - 6
Block - 0
31 people have voted (0%)
DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
March 28th, 2014 06:06

Ravenbird

Ravenbird
Agree
March 28th, 2014 06:14

It's a good idea. But only when the publics posts are not public for the internet but public for the pods.

Mike Powell

Mike Powell
Agree
March 28th, 2014 06:14

Karthikeyan A K

Karthikeyan A K
Agree
March 28th, 2014 06:23

Nice idea. What about deleting all your post under certain tag.

DU

[deactivated account] March 28th, 2014 06:28

@karthikeyanak I'd like that, too. :)

twain

twain
Agree
March 28th, 2014 07:24

Good idea. To select a whole aspect would be nice too.

M

morgenstern
Agree
March 28th, 2014 07:44

I think that, as long as this is an option and not default feature, it would be great!

DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
March 28th, 2014 08:29

DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
March 28th, 2014 08:34

While a great suggestion, it is hard to realize with posts spread to other networks (which is the whole point of decentralized social media, right?).

Rasmus Fuhse

Rasmus Fuhse March 28th, 2014 08:39

Are you just wanting that feature or are you going to implement it?

PG

Paul Greindl
Agree
March 28th, 2014 09:00

Dee Baumdeesaster

Dee Baumdeesaster
Abstain
March 28th, 2014 09:07

DU

[deactivated account]
Abstain
March 28th, 2014 09:19

I can take it or leave it. A feature like this is not something I would personally use but I can see other people using something like this so I'll abstain on this one.

A

Adrenalin
Abstain
March 28th, 2014 13:14

DU

[deactivated account] March 28th, 2014 13:21

@rasmusfuhse it's just an idea of mine, but I'm not able do code it. :-/

But I guess it's not too hard to implement?

Rasmus Fuhse

Rasmus Fuhse March 28th, 2014 13:29

Okay. But then your proposal is nearly useless. I mean, it's great to gather ideas and create concepts. But we don't want to use loom.io as a wiki, but as a decision-tool. So most of the times a proposal here is asking which way diaspora should go. So if your proposal is going to get accepted here all it says is: if someday someone is going to implement this feature, the pullrequest should not be rejected with the reason that some other one thinks the feature is useless. But this usually doesn't happen - may there be a decision about it or not.

Rasmus Fuhse

Rasmus Fuhse March 28th, 2014 13:35

By the way, we have a wishlist thread. Goob is the man for the big vision here and he started the wishlist: https://www.loomio.org/d/VMg5HlpZ/diaspora-the-next-12-months

Trolli Schmittlauch

Trolli Schmittlauch March 28th, 2014 15:14

Deletin posts in decentralized social networks is quite complicated: How can you know whether other pods actually delete posts when being asked to do so by other pods via federation? As Diaspora is open source it'll always be possible to get the source, comment out the deletion code and collect posts.

As deltion doesn't even work reliable for single posts, we shouldn't implement a "post killer" button which makes people feel safe when they aren't

Trolli Schmittlauch

Trolli Schmittlauch
Disagree
March 28th, 2014 15:15

Deleting posts isn't working reliable in decentral social networks. So we shouldn't create the illusion of being able to do a big clean-up

Flaburgan

Flaburgan March 28th, 2014 15:19

@thomasl I guess only a few person would be against adding a feature. The problem is, who is going to implement it? It's not about "it is not hard to do it", it's about the fact that we all are volunteers and have very few time to work on diaspora. So request a feature is useless, we need people to implement it, not ideas.

Waithamai

Waithamai
Disagree
March 28th, 2014 23:53

ventos

ventos
Abstain
March 29th, 2014 05:22

Ivan Gabriel Morén

Ivan Gabriel Morén
Abstain
March 29th, 2014 12:22

SuperTux88

SuperTux88
Abstain
March 29th, 2014 19:24

DU

[deactivated account]
Abstain
March 30th, 2014 11:42

AU

Alexander Uvizhev
Disagree
March 31st, 2014 18:41

see my comment

AU

Alexander Uvizhev March 31st, 2014 18:44

This is a good tool to lost sensitive data. Suppose that before pushing this button any normal user will walk through all the posts in a desired period to examine if he wouldn't delete any good stuff. For those who don't have a good posts I'd suggest an option in settings to delete old posts automatically.

Ryuno-Ki

Ryuno-Ki March 31st, 2014 20:03

@thomasl I'm against deleting reshared posts as well. It could lead to confusion.

I'm loving reading old posts, too. But I can understand your point. But as stated above by others, I consider it rather complicated …

Ryuno-Ki

Ryuno-Ki
Abstain
March 31st, 2014 20:03

Q

Quetschwalze
Abstain
April 4th, 2014 07:08

J

jonsger
Disagree
April 5th, 2014 19:46

see Trolli Schmittlauchs comment

R

rhaglion
Abstain
April 6th, 2014 19:49

theradialactive

theradialactive
Agree
April 8th, 2014 13:47

twain

twain
Abstain
April 9th, 2014 12:39

Good idea. To select a whole aspect would be nice too.

twain

twain
Abstain
April 9th, 2014 12:39

Julian Dumitrascu

Julian Dumitrascu
Agree
April 15th, 2014 14:59

A

AlexB
Agree
April 20th, 2014 11:05

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com
Agree
April 20th, 2014 17:19

I agree Decisions later I forget you said it but I read a review of a GNU/Linux distribution and the reporter stated you can tell that these people gave you every conceivable option. I liked that.

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com April 20th, 2014 17:28

@trollischmittlauch maybe some type of user image of code that compares it to the pod your on as regards to options available. or a podupti link and addition of a features available to the podupti list of pods.

As far as post killing. other's add comments to a post and maybe liked their comments on a post.

So we could add a general description saver that with added effort anybody could fill out once then maybe a process of sticking with a post definition after whichever process of social collaboration.

This general description saver either creates a community user which is showed to have made the previous statement of a real person. Say when I delete a post then John Do is now the new poster.

or else if it's like a article or picture a generalization box cold be put in its place saying "it was a picture with these qualities" or " it was an article with these qualities" Then the comments could still relate to it.

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com April 20th, 2014 17:33

Agreeing on the New Diaspora Community Post Attribution re-licensed to Avatar would be the new and edgy social media thing. Could be done Diaspora whole or Pod specific

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com April 20th, 2014 17:42

Using a regex code;
we could turn all comments contained within the deleted post that refer to the original poster by name to turn into @JohnDo or whatever the community post reattribution avatars name is agreed too.

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com April 20th, 2014 17:45

of course we'd have to make sure it covers and comments where the posters name was mentioned in the forms of; # , @ , markdown possibilities like , or just regular type like this

WI

williammouck@hushmail.com April 20th, 2014 17:51

Tidying up the servers could include options of html 5 browser data holding and serving so users can save certain posts to their own computer and serve them only when their online?

SP

Sebas Pedersen
Abstain
April 21st, 2014 02:31

PH

Paul Hill
Agree
April 21st, 2014 03:17

Frode Lindeijer

Frode Lindeijer
Agree
April 21st, 2014 22:19

I think this would be a great feature if the posts would get a placeholder stating the post date, something like "post deleted by user" and maybe the user's name. This to avoid confusion about replies.
Some users may want to auto-delete old posts.

Flaburgan

Flaburgan
Disagree
April 22nd, 2014 15:02

This is a use case rare enough to use DELETE queries on the DB to deal with that. If you don't have access to the DB of your pod and don't know the podmin enough to ask that, you're dealing with diaspora* the wrong way.

NicoAlto

NicoAlto
Disagree
April 22nd, 2014 16:49