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Thu 28 May 2020 10:50AM

Bridging tech and community working groups

NS Nick Sellen Public Seen by 47

I feel the tech working group is very detached from the community working group. Also detached from the wider conversations that happen in threads on loomio that from my perspective often have little relation to what is happening in the tech working group.

Let's fix it!

I thought maybe this co-ordination/governing board / working group proposal might address some of it (https://www.loomio.org/d/DPONRFbU/discussion-and-development-of-an-elected-social-coop-governing-board), but not sure what is the status of that?

So, I propose:

  • ask @Matthew Cropp to summarise the state of the proposal linked above (just because he started the thread, but maybe others can do it too)

  • we schedule a call to get to know each other a bit more, explore our current positions, and nudge towards the next step (maybe one person from the community working group can join me to co-plan/facilitate that call? I think @Matt Noyes did a great job facilitating the disco discussion call, but could be anyone!)

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freescholar
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Tue 2 Jun 2020 9:56PM

great! East Coast USA = 12:30

YK

Yasuaki Kudo Tue 2 Jun 2020 9:31PM

What the heck I will try for fun!

NS

Nick Sellen Wed 3 Jun 2020 7:44AM

Is somebody from the community side able to co-faciliate the call with me? @Matt Noyes said he was happy to help, but maybe the timing is not good. Anyone else available?

Tasks are: plan a structure for the call beforehand, facilitate during the call, write up minutes afterwards

MN

Matt Noyes Wed 3 Jun 2020 4:14PM

Sorry Nick -- lots going on. I have a meeting at that time but will join as soon as I can.

NS

Nick Sellen Wed 3 Jun 2020 4:27PM

no problem :) ... given I didn't actually give any time options for this one (I probably should have actually, but I just wanted to get something started)

DC

Derek Caelin Wed 3 Jun 2020 4:35PM

Hi folks, how can I join the call?

MN

Matt Noyes Wed 3 Jun 2020 4:36PM

Is there a link?

YK

Yasuaki Kudo Wed 3 Jun 2020 4:42PM

ok i am up right now so chances are I will be sleeping in 3 hours 😅

NS

Nick Sellen Wed 3 Jun 2020 5:13PM

Ah yes! A call link:

If you look in the pad, you'll see a structure I just threw together whilst drinking a beer on the porch. It's mostly about getting to know each other and seeing where we can help each other. If you have some other ideas/suggestions/improvements, let me know!

Otherwise see you there! 💗

NS

Nick Sellen Wed 3 Jun 2020 8:35PM

Thanks everyone for attending, minutes are here:

date: 2020-06-03 19:30 UTC
call link: https://meet.jit.si/social.coop
facilitator: Nick (https://social.coop/@nicksellen)
note takers: Matt (@mattcropp), Emi (@emi)
present:

  • Michel (@michel_slm) x

  • Noah (@redoak) x

  • Derek (@derek) x

  • Matt Cropp (@mattcropp) x

  • David (@idmyn) x

  • Nick Sellen (@nicksellen) x

  • Matt Noyes (@mattnoyes) x

  • Emi Do (@emi) x

agenda

  • agree duration (suggestion: 45 minutes, extended to 1h)

  • recruit note takers

  • check ins & introductions / getting to know each other (round)

    • how are you doing right now?

    • what is your current life situation?

    • what ideas/people/visions are inspiring you lately?

    • what does social.coop mean to/for you?

    • what are/were you expecting from this call?

  • what do you want to do with (and for) social.coop (round)

    • format suggestions:

      • I would love to see/do _ and for that I’m looking for help with _

      • I am inspired by _ but I have no idea what to do

      • I am lost/unsure but would love help with _

    • for 3 categories:

      • long term dreams (months/years/decades/epochs…)

        • Nick: social.coop’s tech side is running slickly, community side is running nicely, and we’re modeling how an onlince co-op can work that inspires others. Keeping energy/communications going as a need.

        • David: having capacity for building something that is non-essential but collaboratively built but that folks could enjoy

        • Noah: agree on and migrate to mastadon fork that has more options that allows local posting, explore expanding infrastructure that social.coop can maintain (agreed upon by democratically?), develop ways to contribute financially to the co-operative movement (ie tech hardware), compensating admin and upkeep work for the instance

        • Matt C: can start thinking about what additional spaces we can create/have (ie online social spaces that can be provided for members)-> get creative!, making decisions of what scale that social.coop can operate (ie staff team?), what would we direct additional resources to? , scaling capacity

        • Matt N: Discussion around questions of how social.coop could provide tools, or cooperate with other groups to come up with a shared set of tools.

        • Emi: Have social.coop become more of a testing-ground for new co-ops. Nice value-add to the community for people to feel like they’re in a supportive environment that expands and supports the co-op model.

        • Michel: feneas.org, get to a world where we don’t have to join a proprietary platform to communicate with one another,

      • medium term visions (weeks/months)

        • Nick: Flow of the tech team working would be great so there’s a sense of clear path, etc.

        • David: Having a good onboarding document that would be kept updated for the tech working group.

        • Noah: easy for folks to have transparency over processes, town crier bot for loomio,

        • Matt C: re-visit how different spaces are being used (ie git.coop is used by CWG, but not familiar), collective tools platform co-op for managing operations?,

        • Derek: I’d like to support in exploring and administrating tech services, and I’m interested in being a moderator

        • Emi: Cooler onboarding process on CWG side to do a bit better on member engagement.

      • short term actions (days/weeks)

        • Nick: Keeping stuff going - putting the minutes somewhere, scheduling calls, replying to Loomio posts, etc. Inside the tech group there’s small organizational tasks to move things to the next level.

        • David: Keep momentum going with tech stuff.

        • Noah: Knock out existing to-do list.

        • Matt C: contact between CWG and TG to occur consistently, keeping the rhythm

        • Matt N: In CWG we would love to have registration be more integrated as a process. Currently an elaborate process that could be streamlined. Practical issues it’d be great to iron out.

        • Derek: listen and learn as much as possible

        • Emi: registration and onboarding process to be streamlined. Would be great to understand what the pieces are on the back-end so can troubleshoot more effectively.

  • what can you offer for those needs? (try and be specific) (free style)

    • Nick S: helping Emi understand existing registration backend

    • Noah: follow up about registration about what the limitations are for current mastadon registration process

      • Matt C: concerns: who is getting notifcation process when someone joins? need to talk through flow and making sure current process doesn’t break

      • action? to have a follow up meeting where CWG goes over what the current needs are for registratio and whether or not the mastadon integrated registration process can work

      • whichever tech working group call follows that of CWG call, will have a CWG rep to join? list of dates for tech working group?
        -June 10th (Tech working group meeting) have a CWG rep to attend and go through registration process
        -June 11 event could be useful for thinking about long-term issues: https://open.coop/events/the-tools-of-collaboration/
        -how to build dreams while being grounded in practicalities
        -Nick S: challenges in giving people access to server to be able to participate (currently social.coop is an overgrown garden and there are a lot of plans for what to use the garden space for, but not enough help with clearing)

  • check outs (round)

outcomes / action points

  • Nick - document existing registration process to help with debugging and share with Emi (and everyone I guess…)

  • Matt C to attend next tech team meeting. (2020-06-10 19:30 UTC)

    • discussion about registration process

  • announcement: June 11 event could be useful for thinking about long-term issues: https://open.coop/events/the-tools-of-collaboration/