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Officially Support Animated GIF avatars?

ST Sean Tilley Public Seen by 79
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Sean Tilley Fri 21 Sep 2012 1:29AM

Before you say "Ew! GIFs! Gross!", hear me out. A lot of our users are able to have animated GIF avatars, and more than a few of them are actually kind of cool. Loads of animated GIFs are on the stream already, and it seems like something that users really like. However, we've never really explicitly supported them, often users just upload a Gif with a changed file extension.

Keep in mind also that Twitter is officially banning them, see here: http://m.gizmodo.com/5945074/twitter-just-outlawed-animated-gif-avatars

Not all users are going to like it, so here's what I'm wondering: would it be useful to adopt animated avatars by default, with a user-level option to turn them off if it slows down a user's page load too much?

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Brent Bartlett Fri 21 Sep 2012 5:34AM

I think it's okay, as long as users can turn them off. It could get pretty...distracting.

(Shutting off GIFs should be granular. I don't want "all GIFs animated" or "no GIFs animated". I can see wanting GIFs to animate in posts, but not in avatars.)

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Flaburgan Fri 21 Sep 2012 7:11AM

Just like Brent.

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Jonne Haß Fri 21 Sep 2012 10:05AM

So I'll play the counterpart :P

Ew! Animated GIFs! Gross! Okay seriously: There are like 1% beautiful or useful animated GIFs. I'll happily click on a link for them. But I wouldn't like to see even those 1% as profile pictures. It is just distracting. There are good reasons and where never officially specified nor got a CSS counterpart. You can't tell me you can ignore any change in your view. Those that are reactions to your actions are just quicker processed, all require attention. It's a reflex everybody has to pay attention to movements and believe me, you wouldn't want to live without it (nor could you very long). It just disrupts your reading flow.

Now I remember the time we let them trough and everybody tried it. So awful.

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Jonne Haß Fri 21 Sep 2012 10:08AM

Okay bug in loom.io found, stuff in angle brackets just gets stripped. "…There are good reasons blink and marquee were never officially…"

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Florian Staudacher Fri 21 Sep 2012 10:52AM

we have this discussion in an issue on github, too.
https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/3165
there we also got a link to a js snippet, which replaces gifs with a static canvas
http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/80588

Maybe this in combination with a user setting for default behaviour might be a good compromise.

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goob Fri 21 Sep 2012 12:16PM

I hate animated GIFs above almost all things.* As Jonne says, perhaps 1% are decent. A lot of them are so lurid and jerky that they actually make me feel ill (I have health issues exacerbated by things moving like this in front of my eyes).

Unfortunately, animated GIFs seem to appear to some people as a 'complete package', so they post them one after another with no comment, so there is no useful communication (as far as I see it) and they act as a junk stream. I noticed the same happening on Makrio - lots of people posting animated GIFs with no remixing - as though the GIF is the total extent of their communication. It held no interest for me.

I realise some people might want to communicate this way, and I'm not advocating banning them (although it might make sense to leave Makrio for this form of communication), but please, don't add proper support for them until you've added an option for users to switch off all animations by default.

Or, leave it as it is now - so that only a still frame is shown in the stream, with a symbol indicating that it is an animation, until you click on it, at which point the animation starts. That leaves it up to the end user whether or not to see the animation. (It would be useful to add the facility to click on the animation a second time to stop it again, though.)

*Hyperbole, in case anyone didn't realise.

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Jason Robinson Fri 21 Sep 2012 1:52PM

Yeah I'm for defo going to vote against any proper support for animated gifs in profile avatars unless there is a user setting to turn them off :)

For posts it's different - there they are part of the content. But I can see some people wanting to block those as well and I'd vote for that. As long as it doesn't make rendering the stream heavier than it is.

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retired__-__ Wed 26 Sep 2012 7:46PM

please: don't allow animated GIF avatars, if you don't want to look like crappy myspace.

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Jonne Haß Sun 21 Oct 2012 8:18PM

The reason why we should even put effort in closing that hole that allows to upload them: https://joindiaspora.com/u/jonnypirat

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