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Pavithran S Public Seen by 110

Cmon guys cant we just back up the original pages from FCI wikia ? I think there was nothing much added in later stages ?

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Pirate Praveen Wed 18 Sep 2013

@pavithrans , @balasankarchelamat and @hrishikeshakastult is working on restoring it. There were things added after we migrated from wikia.

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Pirate Praveen started a proposal Wed 18 Sep 2013

move the wiki to poddery server Closed Wed 25 Sep 2013

Mediawiki instance at fosscommunity.in (currently down) was running on a dreamhost shared plan Anivar has, but he wants to move it out. Can we host the wiki on poddery server? I don't think it would be too heavy, but we got to really stop spammers.

Yes - move to poddery server
No - find another solution

Results
Agree - 7
Abstain - 7
Disagree - 7
Block - 7
7 people have voted (4%)
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Pirate Praveen
Agree
Wed 18 Sep 2013

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V
Agree
Wed 18 Sep 2013

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Wed 18 Sep 2013

Why should every wiki be on mediawiki? Dokuwiki with the monobook theme looks similar to mediawiki default installation, has better spam protection features and easier to handle. Can we give that a try?

Not sure about the data migration.

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Pirate Praveen Wed 18 Sep 2013

@manukrishnantv if we can migrate date, then yes.

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Wed 18 Sep 2013

Found this: https://www.dokuwiki.org/tips:mediawiki_to_dokuwiki_converter
But someone has to try. I have always felt bulky with mediawiki, and many features are not at all used.

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Anish Sheela
Agree
Wed 18 Sep 2013

Yes. But keep spam under control first. Also, I am suggesting something other than mediawiki like moin moin.

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Pavithran S
Agree
Fri 20 Sep 2013

Yeah any wiki should do fine . Lets priorities on spam control . Its such a nuisance .

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StultuS
Agree
Sun 22 Sep 2013

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Balasankar C Sun 22 Sep 2013

I have all the content pages restored. The only thing remaining is "user" table. I am doubtful whether to spend energy and time on combing the user list off spam OR just to start registrations fresh. If the number of registered (and non-spam) users is less than 100, we can ask them to register again. My suggestion is that.

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Balasankar C
Agree
Sun 22 Sep 2013

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Nitesh A Jain
Agree
Tue 24 Sep 2013

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Sat 28 Sep 2013

Since everyone agreed to move the wiki to poddery server, what's the next step? I can help setup the domain with php + nginx running.

What about the data, wiki software to be used and anti spam measures?

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Pirate Praveen Sat 26 Oct 2013

@balasankarchelamat do we have a date in mind when we can have wiki running again?

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Manu Krishnan T V Sat 26 Oct 2013

I can setup ngnix and php in the poddery server. Should it be just fosscommunity.in or wiki.fosscommunity.in?

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Pirate Praveen Sat 26 Oct 2013

fosscommunity.in, as we have been using that domain for some time and if old links can work, it would be a plus.

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Manu Krishnan T V Sat 26 Oct 2013

I'll go ahead with that then.

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shirish Wed 20 Nov 2013

Just to be clear which wiki are we talking about ? The one on pirateparty which is down or some other wiki ?

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Pirate Praveen Wed 20 Nov 2013

@shirish this is fosscommunity.in group.

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Balasankar C Tue 26 Nov 2013

Check http://balasankarc.in/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

I have recovered all the pages in namespaces except "User".

Remaining tasks
1. Comb through user table. This is cumbersome because first we need to import 17 gb sql dump which alone takes so much time. Then we need to comb through user table to find non-spam ones. I have told before that we need to consider whether to retain users. Hrishi said he can help, but he became busy with resigning from his job at Bangalore and then he went to Trivandrum. So couldn't contact with him properly.

  1. Comb through spam images. This I believe I can do, but only after December 6. I had already done this once, but a sudden computer crash made me format my hard disk and I forgot to take backup of /var/www folder.

Please go through the site I gave and see if it is ok. If so, we can take the wiki up with that and do the two remaining tasks afterwards. However, we need to fix how to prevent this from happening in future. We had all common anti-spam extensions activated, like SpamBlacklist etc. We need to discuss more security measures.

In my opinion, if we want the wiki ASAP, let us take it up with what all we have in hand and fix the issues on the run.

Sorry for the delay. Am having university exams.

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Wed 27 Nov 2013

I have contacted Anivar for updating the DNS records to point to the poddery server. Once that's done, I can configure the web server part and we could get the Wiki up.

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Pirate Praveen Tue 3 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat , we can add two factor authentication, at least in the beginning, we could turn it off for short times later to see if it holds. I have found this option in localbitcoins.com. You will get a code and 100 keys matching that code, you'll be asked to enter each code each time you login. You are supposed to take a print out or save the codes. It is a bit too much for a wiki, but if that is a choice between keeping the wiki running or shut, I'd choose to keep it running.

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Pirate Praveen Tue 3 Dec 2013

@manukrishnantv there is already one extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TwoFactorAuthentication we may have to add paper codes option though.

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Manu Krishnan T V Tue 3 Dec 2013

@praveenarimbrathod @balasankarchelamat Anivar has updated the DNS records and so the domain is now pointing to poddery.com. I'll be creating a virtual host and redirecting it to a blank page. Let me know when the wiki data is ready.

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Balasankar C Wed 4 Dec 2013

@manukrishnantv can you install a mediawiki instance on it? Name "FOSS Community of India". I will import the pages on saturday...

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Wed 4 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat Sure. I'll get that done tonight.

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Balasankar C Mon 16 Dec 2013

  1. Wiki is up with all pages restored (except of course "User" pages)
  2. Will clean up images and add them soon. So many unnecessary images exist in my database.
  3. User registrations temporarily closed (until we find a way to fight spam).

However, a problem persists. I left the wiki open for a little time yesterday night and got a BIG LOAD of spam registrations within that few time. So, the spambot still attacks fosscommunity.in. All the common Spam blocking plugins are installed and still this happens.

Everyone plese suggest, better anti-spam measures.

If, none is found, we will be forced to make the wiki "registration by admins only" permanently.. :(

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Balasankar C Mon 16 Dec 2013

  1. Wiki is up with all pages restored (except of course "User" pages)
  2. Will clean up images and add them soon. So many unnecessary images exist in my database.
  3. User registrations temporarily closed (until we find a way to fight spam).

However, a problem persists. I left the wiki open for a little time yesterday night and got a BIG LOAD of spam registrations within that few time. So, the spambot still attacks fosscommunity.in. All the common Spam blocking plugins are installed and still this happens.

Everyone plese suggest, better anti-spam measures.

If, none is found, we will be forced to make the wiki "registration by admins only" permanently.. :(

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Balasankar C Mon 16 Dec 2013

Images uploaded. I used regex to delete unwanted images. So, some necessary images may have got deleted. If anyone of you find red link on any Image, do report it.

Now, I believe the tasks within my technical know-how is over. Now suggestions needed to prevent spam and combing user table.

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Mon 16 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat Can you consult with Anivar, who maintains the SMC wiki? Its also on the same server now.

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Pirate Praveen Tue 17 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat thanks a lot! Now can you guide someone new to restore chamba wiki? It would be good to have more people who know to admin media wiki.

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Balasankar C Tue 17 Dec 2013

I can try.. Btw, do we have a DB backup of Chamba Wiki? And, do we have a group for Chamba?

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Manu Krishnan T V Wed 18 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat I have some of the tables. User table is gone though. Its around GB's now. Let me find a way to share that with you.

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Balasankar C Wed 18 Dec 2013

@manukrishnantv FCI wiki was abt 4 GB. Do you have it in your local system?? If so, one day I can come to Ernakulam.

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Manu Krishnan T V Fri 20 Dec 2013

I have many copies of the DB lying around in my office systems.

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Pirate Praveen Fri 20 Dec 2013

@balasankarchelamat it would be good to have more people knowing how to do it. So ask if Alfaz or Sarath wants to sit with you and learn it.

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Pirate Praveen Fri 14 Feb 2014

Thanks to @balasankarchelamat wiki is up for sometime! @hrishikeshakastult can we add a splash message for people who need an account? Also ask for help stop spam so that we can open up registrations again.