Allow GreenNet to join CoTech
GreenNet have contacted us and wish to join CoTech. Are we happy for them to join?
> GreenNet http://greennet.org.uk is a collective that has been operating for 30 years doing a variety of internet related activities. We have recently been investigating (with www.hced.co.uk) about whether to formally become a coop, and have mapped out the next steps.
> I believe that we were approached to join when the group was starting up, andit certainly looks like we'd be a good fit. We're working with Wave at the moment, and have been in contact with other members like Calverts and Outlandish over the years...
> What would we need to do to join up now? and what would our obligations as members be?
Chris Lowis (Go Free Range) started a proposal Wed 12 Jul 2017
Allow GreenNet to join CoTech Closed Wed 19 Jul 2017
Thank you everyone for taking part in this disussion and proposal. Of the 26 member co-operatives, 13 (50%) cast a vote. 9 agreed with the proposal as written, 3 disagreed and 1 abstained.
There was a strong sentiment raised that GreenNet would "make a great addition to the CoTech network". Ed Maw from GreenNet very articulately and generously explained the process they are going through to become a cooperative and expressed a public commitment to adopting the Co-operative principles as part of this transition.
This proposal raised two principle objections:
- The membership criteria for joining CoTech is not clear
- Related to this, concern that GreenNet are not currently a "formal" co-op
In addition while writing up this summary I realised that it is not clear to me:
- What rules apply to a proposal of this nature in terms of voting basis (majority, unanimity, something else?) and quorum.
I'm sure that everyone would wish to join me in thanking Ed and GreenNet for showing such enthusiasm in CoTech and for kicking off this discussion.
Given that there are objections to this proposal, and ambiguity over the membership criteria, may I suggest that we do not carry GreenNet's application immediately but move rapidly to clarifying what our criteria should be for accepting new members?
Please vote once on behalf of your cooperative.
|Agree - 8|
|Abstain - 2|
|Disagree - 3|
|Block - 0|
Voting for Cetis LLP. After seeing the discussion on this, then I think whether they should join before actually constituting as a co-op should be down to their reputation with those who know them.
Wed 12 Jul 2017
[fairmondo] - I trust GreenNets word they are following the seven principles. This makes them a coop for us. Would be handy if they joined Coops UK. Shouldn't this be fairly straight forward if an organisation already 'operates as a coop'?
Thu 13 Jul 2017
[dtc innovation] so far, the only thing which does not make GreenNet a co-op per se is not having the "co-op sticker" on their face — acting as is, working as is, and co-operating as is seems way enough to me.
Tue 18 Jul 2017
I think we need to clarify membership criteria for Co-Tech. Is this purely a co-op for co-ops or are we happy to include individuals and non co-op cos, providing they fulfil certain criteria?
Wed 19 Jul 2017
We're (GFR) agreeing on the basis that we're currently a member but are not formally a co-op.
Whether we should be a member given some of the concerns raised in this discussion is another question and we plan to address that separately.
Aaron Hirtenstein (Agile Collective) started a proposal Thu 13 Dec 2018
Accept Greennet as a member of CoTech Closed Fri 21 Dec 2018
We accept Greennet as a member of CoTech providing they resolve the issue of worker ownership and control by becoming a coop within 2 years. CoTech will provide support to enable them to do this, by offering Sion Whellens's skills and expertise and by supporting an application to Solid Fund to get funding to help them with the legal costs.
|Agree - 16|
|Abstain - 1|
|Disagree - 1|
|Block - 0|
Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts)
Fri 14 Dec 2018
Thanks for your faith. It could be a knotty one, with maybe a Gordian sword-type remedy. I’d be happy to do a preliminary review with Greenet and there may be a way forward that doesn’t need Solidfund to contribute, I would advise after I’ve met with Greennet.