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Thu 29 May 2014 6:58AM

Internet Party, PPNZ and PPI

AR Andrew Reitemeyer Public Seen by 32

Now that the Internet Party has a leader we should figure out our relationship towards them. Also there are members of the international Pirate movement who would like to invite the Internet Party of New Zealand to ask for observer status in Pirate Parties International.

Under previous rules, they couldn't gain full membership of PPI as PPNZ is already a member and they do not have "Pirate" in their name. Apparently these limitations have now been relaxed, but the IP show no interest in association their "brand" with the word "pirate".

AR

Poll Created Thu 29 May 2014 7:05AM

That PPNZ has no objection to the Internet Party of New Zealand being granted observer status in Pirate Parties International Closed Sun 1 Jun 2014 7:00AM

Outcome
by Andrew Reitemeyer Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:23AM

The outcome is affirmative with reservations. I will convey this to Koen De Voegt If there is to be a approach, PPNZ will be formally asked. This would probably be after the NZ elections.

Most of our goals are centered around the Internet and the net is global in nature. The Internet Party would be a valuable partner for the world Pirate Movement politically and technologically. If the Pirate movement wishes to invite them to join as an observer we should not raise any objections,

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 60.0% 3 AR KT RU
Abstain 20.0% 1 HM
Disagree 20.0% 1 DP
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 35 J AJ TF TJ CM BV M PA AB PC M B JB PY P JP RF CM MJS FS

5 of 40 people have participated (12%)

AR

Andrew Reitemeyer
Agree
Thu 29 May 2014 7:05AM

I am an internationalist :)

DP

David Peterson
Abstain
Thu 29 May 2014 7:26AM

We shouldn't object, but this isn't something we should have a resolution on either! Unless specifically asked.

KT

Kirk Twist
Agree
Thu 29 May 2014 7:37AM

I see no reason not to have competing voices in the debate. Healthy debate is the backbone of the democratic process. In theory at least...

HM

Hubat McJuhes
Block
Thu 29 May 2014 10:48AM

What @david says.

HM

Hubat McJuhes
Abstain
Sat 31 May 2014 5:42AM

I hear what yous are saying and there is something about it.

DP

David Peterson
Disagree
Sat 31 May 2014 7:46AM

See latest comment. This is a pointless resolution.

DU

Andrew McPherson Thu 29 May 2014 3:39PM

I have grave fears about the internet party. Least of all their leader doesn't know how the internet works.

RU

Rob Ueberfeldt Thu 29 May 2014 11:58PM

I have no objection against not raising any objection. As for our relationship with IP/Mana we don't have to show approval or disapproval, I think we can be the conscience of Mana.Com if they do something 'good' we praise them, if they do something we don't like we condemn that action.

I strenuously object to us ever entering into personality politics and insulting members of any other party, we should always aim to be as open to approach as possible.

We will need allies and partnerships to survive once we are set up properly, we should be laying the groundwork for our 2017 campaign.

PC

Peter Cummuskey Fri 30 May 2014 1:57AM

@andrewmcpherson "...their leader doesn't know how the internet works."

Can you cite a source for that? I'd really like to know how much to trust them, considering they're my vote after this party.

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