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The Open Organization Maturity Model

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In the lab of 26/08/2017 it was decided to start a project to help asses the «openness» of the pirate party BE using The Open Organization Maturity Model. This thread is here to share ideas and discuss about this project.

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Ilja Tue 29 Aug 2017 5:25PM

I'm not sure about splitting up. There are different topics, so they can be clearly sepperated in the form as far as I'm concerned. But having five different forms seems like overkill. After all, we do want the whole picture, don't we? Unless we want to give smaller questionnaires (with different people getting different topics), but to be representative, we can only do something like that with larger groups (which is not the case ATM)

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Thierry Fenasse Tue 29 Aug 2017 5:43PM

Just a question ... why an .odt instead of a wiki page? (other reasons that you did it on the train and that it was easier to work off-line :p )

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Ilja Wed 30 Aug 2017 5:18PM

Huh, you're right :/ A wiki page makes more sense in about every way, doesn't it? :/
I fixed it :p https://wiki.pirateparty.be/index.php?title=Open_Organization_Maturity_Model/Questionaire
This is now the content of the .odt, but I'll change for the 'common sentence' thing, and I'll also see where they speak about 'leaders', so I can make it a bit better towards PPBE. I'll also change the links on the project page to refer to this page instead of the .odt

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Ilja Tue 29 Aug 2017 5:32PM

Ohw, and should we already try it out manually? We could already ask a crew or squad or wathever if they want to fill it in internally for their own crew/squad. This could help them think and give feedback about their own openness, and it would give us information on how good the document actually is for the pirate party.
* I think the IT-squad are swell guys who'd be open for something like this ;)

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Ilja Wed 30 Aug 2017 5:50PM

Common sentences is done on the wiki page. Some points didn't have common sentences. I've left those as they where. (BTW, links on the project page for the questionaire are also refering to this page now.)

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HgO Wed 30 Aug 2017 6:31PM

@iljabaert Yeah, the result is quite nice, but the creation is too cumbersome in my opinion.

For the score, we can do something like that : level 1 = one point, level 2 = two points, and level 3 = ... three points :D Then, we count the number of questions answered, and we divide by this number. To get a percentage, we should also divide by 3. For instance, imagine I answered four questions : 1 level 1, 2 level 2, and 1 level 3. Then I would obtain : (1*1 + 2*2 + 3*1)/(4*3) = 8/12 = 67 %

Yes, I noticed there isn't a common sentence every time... I'm wondering if it would possible to rearrange the sentences in order to have a common sentence ? Would it be cheating ? :/

Yes, we could try it on a squad or crew. Maybe ITSquad, or WikiSquad, or Internal Democracy ^ It doesn't really matter :)

Ah, and I don't understand your changes made to the questionnaire, on the wiki :sweat_smile:

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Ilja Wed 30 Aug 2017 6:53PM

Ah :D perfect for the score! And simple actually :p

I don't think rearanging is necessary, it seems ok now I think.

What is it that you don't understand? :/ I may have made some weird comments when I was trying out how to get rid of the 'leader' things, if that's the problem :p (and maybe should have done it all in one swoop instead of sepperate per section while still trying to figure out how to do it :/ )

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HgO Wed 30 Aug 2017 7:02PM

The only problem I see is that we could never obtain 0% with that method... For instance, if I answered four questions with level 1, I would obtain 4/12 = 33%... Soo if we do level 1 = 0 point, level 2 = 1 point, etc. the same example as before would give : (1*0 +2*1+1*2)/(4*2) = 5/8 = 62.5 %. That's better :D

I didn't see that you wanted to get rid of the "leaders", that's why I got confuse. Now I understand, although I must check in the document if it's that simple to get rid of them :p

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Ilja Wed 30 Aug 2017 7:14PM

Yes! please do check!

And yes level 1 = 0 points is indeed even better ;)

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Ilja Wed 30 Aug 2017 7:18PM

Hih :p level 1 = 1 point, because you get 33% for effort ;)

EDIT: I'm just joking of course ;)

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