Loomio
Mon 20 Jun 2022 3:59PM

7 members co-ops to leave CoTech [formerly 9]

AC Animorph Co-op Public Seen by 79

We discussed the issue of lapsed members at the gathering in Birmingham last week.

During the decision making session at the end of the first day we passed the proposal to reverse membership of co-ops, which appear to meet at least one of the following criteria:

  • not responding to any communication for 2+ months,

  • their domain has been inactive,

  • they informed us about folding.

We wanted to ensure we give everyone a chance assuming they might have missed our emails throughout the year. On the second day of the gathering we attempted to reach lapsed co-op members over the phone, in some cases successfully, some of them said they are not operating, others said they are still game!

Here is the list of the co-ops proposed for removal from CoTech due to prolonged inactivity:

  • Digital Liberties - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • dtc innovation - reason: no luck reaching out via email addresses, no phone number.

  • Fairmondo UK - reason: domain defunct, confirmed folded over the phone.

  • GildedSplinters - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • Glowbox Design - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • InFact - reason: confirmed inactive and folding.

  • Open E Commerce - reason: no replies, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • Sleuth - reason: confirmed inactive and folding.

  • Secure Active - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

If you are aware of any information that can contradict the reasons above for any of the co-ops, speak now! Conversely, if you know of any other co-ops that are on this list yet might have stopped trading - also speak up!

AC

Poll Created Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

7 members co-ops to leave CoTech Closed Mon 4 Jul 2022 3:01PM

Outcome
by Animorph Co-op Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:58AM

The vote closed at the start of last week. Thought of leaving some extra time for any potential fresh information to emerge but it has not.

The result of this vote is that the following 7 co-ops are leaving CoTech:

  • dtc innovation

  • Fairmondo UK

  • GildedSplinters

  • Glowbox Design

  • InFact

  • Sleuth

  • Secure Active

The next step will be to remove these co-ops from CoTech website and edit Members Wiki page accordingly.

It is a sad moment but it can hopefully help us appreciate the value of being a part of CoTech and encourage active participation in the network. Feel most welcome to share your opinion!

As described in the thread, the gathering recommended removal of the co-ops we could not reach on our last ditch attempt on the second day in the afternoon.

Hence we now propose to remove 9 co-ops from CoTech:

  • dtc innovation - reason: no luck reaching out via email addresses, no phone number.

  • Fairmondo UK - reason: domain defunct, confirmed folded over the phone.

  • GildedSplinters - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • Glowbox Design - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

  • InFact - reason: confirmed inactive and folding.

  • Sleuth - reason: confirmed inactive and folding.

  • Secure Active - reason: domain defunct, no luck contacting over the phone.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Consent 100.0% 16 AH G IS SF ES AP BP CLF AC LMH J AC C MB IBC ST
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Objection 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 130 JD JA SWS FL ER MSC MP HR SG AM RW M M KB MK CCC KB PB JT AW CL JC SF BW CB IP SBH DS MJS CM SB SG SC EO AV KWO JBA O AW JD THA TC RB OW LH DB SW MS RRD FLC AC CR JMF RP LL J KD LS INM N VN SP JM TD JTW TM JS BR EM GM MS N"A EB NS NS JN SH PE AT A RS ALP CAD SR AM AC LD JLD CBF H S LA CM IN J P BC JB KA LK MG JAM DA JC HS MM ST N NGW EN OB JD DS AL JI AW TI MKW PF AK L JE RG OB MG N TW M BC

16 of 146 people have voted (10%)

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

no longer in a coop so my vote doesn't count but wanted to add support for this. Long overdue! Does this mean they will be removed from the website, wiki, private area of the forum?

ES

Eduardo Silva
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

We never got any calls

BP

Ben Philp
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

good move and non active or folded coops in the group negatively effect the overall perception of Cotech

AC

Autonomic Co-operative
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

Great idea. We can always re-add them if they surface.

MB

Maciej Baron
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

Seems fine if they can't be reached in any way and the domain is defunct.

J

John
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

Seems fair

CLF

Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

Having a little tidy up sounds good to us (GFR), thanks for making it happen. Shout if you need help removing co-ops from the cotech site when you get that far.

AC

Animorph Co-op
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

No critical concerns here, hope we manage to establish more reliable communication channels (or awareness of the existing ones) to make sure no one is left behind.

LMH

Liam MacLeod (MediaBlaze Hosts)
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

No concerns from us regarding removal of defunct coops

SF

Shaun Fensom
Consent
Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:03PM

For CBN. Makes sense.

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:26PM

@Aaron yes, I would think so.

Glad we got your attention @Eduardo Silva, multiple emails over the years have not achieved that! Does your response mean that your co-op is active?

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ES

Eduardo Silva Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:41PM

Yes @Animorph Co-op open-ecommerce works day and nights with cooperatives, in the last years I have being a bit away from oe but Mariano Marey and the rest of the tem continue active. I will ask him to be the point of contact

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:42PM

Great, thanks, just added him to the group, happy to remove you from the list above!

ES

Eduardo Silva Mon 20 Jun 2022 4:43PM

Thanks

AC

Animorph Co-op Tue 21 Jun 2022 10:09AM

Hi @Eduardo Silva @Mariano Marey I amended the vote, could you withdraw your objection, please? Also, could you reply to the email I sent you or share your updated contact details? Thank you, glad you are active!

FT

Fabian Tompsett Tue 21 Jun 2022 10:53AM

I have not been involved with Digital Liberties for a while now. Please contact Richard Barbrook. The company is still active, filing accounts last December. I will also ask him to contact you about their intentions.

AC

Animorph Co-op Wed 22 Jun 2022 10:43AM

Hi Fabian, thanks for reaching out. Could Richard speak to us on this thread please? The only email we have is Info@digitalliberties.org.uk

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 4 Jul 2022 1:31PM

Exchanged a few messages with Eve Pascoe who picked up the general Digital Liberties email. Eva stated:

I am taking over from Richard Barbrook who is temporarily on Sick Leave, signed off by his GP for 12 months with Long Covid. Digital Liberties is active, with ongoing filling via Coops nominated Accounting firm.

We hope Digital Liberties will keep in touch with us going forward, at present removed them from the list of co-ops proposed to leave CoTech.

FT

Fabian Tompsett Tue 21 Jun 2022 10:55AM

When this matter has been resolved I shall remove myself from further discussions.

FL

Felix Lozano Tue 21 Jun 2022 3:39PM

a curiously enjoyable thread.....

E

eva Mon 4 Jul 2022 2:28PM

Dear all, sorry to be late to the discussion - I am taking over temporarily from Richard Barbrook who is Da Man on Digital Liberties - he has been signed off for 12 months with Long Covid but me and Jon Bains, Stefan Lutschinger, Simon Sarginson and Karo Janicka are on it and active. The accounts are up to date and with Coop Accountant as nominated by Fabian in the set up, and we are active in publishing, game development, digital skills course building for UK and EU. Will update all discussions shortly, just to say hello and active !