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April 23rd, 2020 17:48

Microsolidarity Practice Week

Richard D. Bartlett
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Nati and I got caffeinated yesterday and decided we want to host a "practice week": one call per day for 5 days, a space to meet other Microsolidarity people and learn some group practices together.

https://www.thehum.org/microsolidarity

We will love to see some of you there if you want to learn with us how to do more peer-to-peer support in your organisation/community/network.

  • Option 1: There's a US/EU friendly time May 11-15 at 6pm CEST

  • Option 2: There's a Asia/Pacific friendly time June 8-12 at 9am CEST

Take a look at the event page and let me know if you have any questions.

Marek Koys

Marek Koys April 24th, 2020 01:01

Hi Richard,

Thanks for invitation. The “practice week” sounds great and I would really like to join but I somehow stacked right before the end of the ordering process on your website.

The payment somehow can’t come through, it keep on saying “Enter Valid Card Number” but I do use valid card number. That’s the card I’m normally using. It’s a MasterCard. it’s issues by a small bank form Czech Republic if that could play some role In combination with the online payment gate?? I have no clue...

In anyways I would love to join the next cohort of your training so I wanted to ask, if you can connect me with someone form The Hum who Is responsible for payments and who could help me to resolve this issue? Eventually I can send you money directly from my bank account > i just need your account number.

Thanks,

Marek K.

Joe Lightfoot

Joe Lightfoot April 24th, 2020 02:35

This looks rad, it'll be 2am Melbourne time though so I'll have to just check out the recordings once they are available.

Danyl Strype

Danyl Strype April 24th, 2020 03:34

I'm really keen to participate in this, but if Jitsi Meet is used, I
won't be able to attend (for technical reasons explained in the monthly
meetup thread). Again, I can offer the use bbb.nzoss.nz (Big Blue Button
instance hosted by NZ Open Source Society) as the venue for this.
Alternatively, if you don't really need the video conferencing aspect
and a voice conference would do, Mumble is really good. There are a
number of community-hosted Mumble servers, including the Disroot one
that can be accessed via this web app:
https://mumble.disroot.org/

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett April 24th, 2020 04:31

Sure we can figure it out - I will send you a private message.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett April 24th, 2020 04:33

Yeah maybe we will run a second one at the other end of the day which will better suit people in Asia/Pacific

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett April 24th, 2020 04:36

Thanks for the offer Strypey. We're using Zoom. I understand the arguments against it, but I have yet to find an alternative that can compete on the features I care most about.

Marek Koys

Marek Koys April 24th, 2020 05:10

I'm wine with the ZOOM, but as some people above start proposing alternatives, I think it's worthy to mention https://remo.co/ as well. It is SW under the development of our friend from Hong Kong. It has a lot of great participatory functions some of which are better then zoom in my honest opinion.

Marek Koys

Marek Koys April 24th, 2020 06:14

Whoops! I actually didn't realize that by answering the email, it would pop over here:)) Anyway...let's move on, in the name of transparency!😬

Danyl Strype

Danyl Strype April 24th, 2020 06:21

We're using Zoom. I understand the arguments against it, but I have yet to find an alternative that can compete on the features I care most about.

Have you tried BBB (with the Greenlight front-end)?

Joe Lightfoot

Joe Lightfoot April 24th, 2020 10:23

I would be most pleased if that pans out. I'm feeling a strong pull to join. And if it's about getting the numbers, I'd be happy to rally a few folks from my congregation who I also reckon would be keen on joining an Asian Pacific time slot.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett April 24th, 2020 10:30

Nope. I'm gunna take a lot of convincing to shift off the tool that is working extremely well for me.

Danyl Strype

Danyl Strype April 24th, 2020 23:23

Nope. I'm gunna take a lot of convincing to shift off the tool that is working extremely well for me.

You know all the reasons why I think having social change discussions on
Zoom (or any corporate-owned platform) is like flying to the other side
of the world to give a speech about the urgency of climate change. So
I'm not going to labour the point ;) Instead, all I'll say is, I haven't
used Zoom, but I've come across lots of people in the last few weeks who
have used both Zoom and BBB, and say they prefer the latter. If you
haven't so much as joined a BBB room for a couple of minutes to see what
it offers, you don't know what you're missing.

Josh Fairhead

Josh Fairhead April 25th, 2020 12:05

I'm not dogmatic about the tools but my preference is to generally use open tooling as I agree with Daniel in spirit (jit.si being my go to service). That said for commercial ventures like this Zoom seems to be the things that captures most attention, regardless of my distaste for it - it may be different in the microsolidarity circles however - I don't know.

Biases on the table, I did just check out BBB and it looked pretty good. I'd defiantly like to stress test it at some point! Perhaps like the revolving facilitator we can have revolving tools as well? Diversity being the spice of life and all :p

These comments are general rather than thread specific
.

Specifically, I'll join for the practice sessions - the price is reasonable, I just need to procure some resources first!

John Gieryn

John Gieryn April 28th, 2020 00:18

Sounds so cool! Wish I were in the right timezone for it. Maybe next time ^.^

Patrick Hoogenbosch

Patrick Hoogenbosch April 28th, 2020 20:30

Hi Nati and Richard. Interesting invitation worth considering. How large is the group of people participating in the 5 day learning program? What kind of people participate, what background? Experiences of others in comparable situations offer many added values.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett April 29th, 2020 07:33

Hi Patrick, so far there are about 20 people, I expect we'll cap it at 30 or 40 so people have a chance to get to know each other. This is advertised publicly so I'm expecting participants will come from different backgrounds.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett May 1st, 2020 09:59

We've added another time now to accommodate Asia/Pacific times (5pm Sydney May 25-29). Will love if you can rally some homies! Details here.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett May 1st, 2020 10:01

Update: due to popular demand we've added a second option! So you can choose which week to join us, depending on your timezone:

  • Option 1: May 11 to 15th @ 6pm Rome (5pm London, 12pm NYC, 9am SF)

  • Option 2: June 8 to 12th @ 9am Rome (7pm Auckland, 3pm Taipei, 5pm Sydney)

Details on the event page.

Joe Lightfoot

Joe Lightfoot May 1st, 2020 10:16

Funk yeah!! Will do.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett May 6th, 2020 07:05

Update about times:

First week is now sold out. We postponed the second week to June 8-12 9am CEST.