France wants to ban petrol and diesel. Should New Zealand?

Suzie Dawson Public Seen by 94

Ref: https://twitter.com/gauloir/status/883342086551986176

Add your own research links and thoughts below. Once there has been enough spirited discussion, we will table a proposal and everyone can vote on it.

Colin England Mon 10 Jul 2017 8:35AM

On ENERGY itself I think we can be incentivised to be independent, rather than DEpendent.

It really is better to be inter-dependent and part of the national smart grid. That would make the load balancing of the variable renewables across the nation easier and cheaper (a national grid will actually use less resources) for everyone.

Miriam Mallinder Mon 10 Jul 2017 8:41AM

ooh Colin really? Are you not sick of the Power Companies extorting us? The more independent we all are of government and big corporate profits the better. This is why we need a RESPONSIVE govt. This is what the Internet Party stands for !!!

Colin England Mon 10 Jul 2017 10:22PM

I'd get rid of the profit making corporations and return power to being a government service that everyone is entitled to.

And that is why we need to turn power back into a government service. We'd have it so that each account holder got a block of power to use free and anything above that they had to pay for. Power infrastructure would be paid for by everyone through taxes.

Tane Harre Mon 10 Jul 2017 9:19AM

@miriammallinder I agree with Colin on having a grid. The grid allows industry to be decentralised for starters. There are also some non technical reasons. I feel it would be too easy for the poor to end up with no power and no way for the government to know.

In the long term I think that we will drop the outlying grid off but this will have definite impacts on rural areas, pumping, milking sheds, farming operations, mining, etc...heavy equipment in a purely solar environment is nearly impossible at current technology.

The solar roads idea is fantastic though, and uses current tech. That should be a part of an electric vehicle policy.

Miriam Mallinder Mon 10 Jul 2017 9:26AM

ok, so long as there is a plan to be less controlling ... this is my issue:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/94561996/faced-with-skyrocketing-power-bills-kiwis-opt-not-to-use-heaters--survey

I also love solar roads :)

Tane Harre Tue 11 Jul 2017 12:52AM

I take it by the discussion moving to how should New Zealand do it instead of should we do it everybody is keen on the idea? Is anybody not keen?

Miriam Mallinder Tue 11 Jul 2017 12:59AM

I'm confused now!

Tane Harre Tue 11 Jul 2017 6:37AM

:) Suzie's question, paraphrased, asked if we should follow suit with France and ban petrol and diesel. We all appear to have answered as 'how we could' instead of 'if we should' so I was wondering if we are all for it even if the implementation needs to be worked out.

Poll Created Tue 11 Jul 2017 7:50AM

Ban use of petrol and diesel vehicles Closed Fri 14 Jul 2017 7:01AM

Climate change is a serious concern. A large amount of GHG gas emissions is from the burning of fossil fuels for transport. To meet our moral obligations of reducing our GHG emissions we should ban the use of diesel and petrol vehicles.