Loomio
Wed 29 May 2019

Joint CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020

The CoTech circle call on 29th May 2019 (which wasn't quorate) agreed to support a formal proposal to be made on Loomio that we support the suggestion that the 2020 Workers Co-op Weekend in Thornbridge (which has capacity for 100+ people) be a joint CoTech / Co-operatives UK event, with CoTech organising it's own parallel sessions.

See also the discourse thread.

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) started a proposal Wed 29 May 2019

Joint Workers Co-op / CoTech weekend in 2020 at Thornbridge Closed Sun 30 Jun 2019

Outcome
by Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Fri 10 Jan

Note that the date of the Workers Co-op Weekend 2020 has changed to 15th-17th May 2020. Also see the attached flip charts that were discussed at the CoTech Gathering in Newcastle in December 2019, where we agreed to proceed with at parallel CoTech gathering at the Workers Co-op Weekend and to see if we can have an extra day at the start.

Run a CoTech gathering in parallel with the Workers Co-op Weekend at Thornbridge 8-10th May 2020.

Results
Agree - 11
Abstain - 2
Disagree - 0
Block - 0
13 people have voted (11%)
FT

Fabian Tompsett
Agree
Wed 29 May 2019

G

Graham
Agree
Thu 30 May 2019

JA

John Atherton
Abstain
Thu 30 May 2019

I'm bias!

CB(

Chris Booth (Form & Function)
Agree
Thu 30 May 2019

Sounds good to me!

CLF

Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)
Agree
Fri 31 May 2019

This sounds like a good idea to us.

JD

Josef Davies-Coates
Agree
Tue 4 Jun 2019

I've failed to ever make it to either so this would be a great way to potentially make it along to both! (especially if family friendly as I've seen proposed elsewhere)

NG(

Nick Greenhill (Co-op Web)
Disagree
Wed 5 Jun 2019

Personally it always feels like there's never enough time to cover everything at our Co-tech gatherings as it is. If we were to add in the Worker Co-op Weekend are we going to make it even harder for ourselves?

I think if this was to work, we'd need to be having more regular Co-tech catch-ups. Which, if that is the case, I'm 100% behind both!

NG(

Nick Greenhill (Co-op Web)
Abstain
Thu 6 Jun 2019

Personally it always feels like there's never enough time to cover everything at our Co-tech gatherings as it is. If we were to add in the Worker Co-op Weekend are we going to make it even harder for ourselves?

I think if this was to work, we'd need to be having more regular Co-tech catch-ups. Which, if that is the case, I'm 100% behind both!

AC

Autonomic Co-operative
Agree
Sat 8 Jun 2019

Autonomic is in favour of this proposal as long as Workers Co-op Weekend are up for it.

AHC

Agile Collective is up for this, although conscious that it will need more organisation to make the most out of it. Also would prefer a date change so it's not on a bank holiday weekend.

LM(

Liam MacLeod (MediaBlaze Hosts)
Agree
Wed 26 Jun 2019

J

Jonathan Thu 30 May 2019

Agree

CCC

The whole of the Thornbridge Outdoors site has been booked so there is loads of accommodation and there might be the possibility of starting a day earlier (via a seperate contract with the venue, see this thread) if people are interested in arriving on the Thursday afternoon and having the whole of Friday for CoTech sessions? If there is enough interest in this, I think it would be a good idea as there is usually so much to discuss and agree and we never seem to have time to get through everything.

CCC

@nickgreenhillcoopw thanks for the feedback, what about the idea of seeing if we can get the site for an extra day, we arrive Thursday night, have the whole of Friday just for CoTech stuff and then also have Saturday and Sunday morning for a parallel CoTech and workers co-op sessions, there are loads of meeting rooms on the site we can all use. One other thought, nobody has stepped forward to organise any other CoTech gathering for either later in 2019 or in 202 yet...

NG(

Nick Greenhill (Co-op Web) Thu 6 Jun 2019

Hi Chris, I think that would definitely help. So we did put forward to host another Co-tech in 2019 as BCU were keen to host something on the Co-tech and offered us space to host. Unfortunately as it was June or July (while the students were away) I think the feeling of people I spoke to was it was too soon after the Sheffield meet-up, which is a shame.

CCC

Ah, I didn't realise that, shame the students don't have a autumn half term holiday, I guess after they break up in December it would be too close to Christmas for a CoTech gathering? Would you consider modifying your vote to abstain or support on the basis on an extra day and in the absence of other proposed events? There is some really nice accommodation there, no need to bring a tent if you don't want to :slight_smile:.

NG(

Nick Greenhill (Co-op Web) Thu 6 Jun 2019

Changed to Abstain :-)

CCC

I have extended the duration of this poll to the Monday after the party at Space4 with the intention of talking to people at the event and encouraging more engagement with this proposal.

CCC

Following chats with people at the Space 4 party last night I have extended the duration of this poll to the end of the month to allow co-ops more time to discuss the idea.

CCC

There was a discussion about this on the call today and I'd just like to point out, as there seems to be a little confusion, that nobody has suggested that this should be the main annual CoTech gathering, the poll proposal is to "Run **a* CoTech gathering in parallel with the Workers Co-op Weekend"*. If we don't have agreement to do this then I'd strongly urge that we don't organise an event within a month of the Workers Co-op Weekend, as we did this year with the CoTech gathering in Sheffield (this was partly my fault I'm afraid) so people are able to attend both.

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 1 Jul 2019

Sorry, missed the vote but in favour!

AHC

Yes, Agile Collective are in favour as well. We understand that this won't be the only CoTech gathering of 2020.

H"R

Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Mon 1 Jul 2019

Sorry we also failed to vote (I was supposed to). We're in favour of a CoTech presence/strand at Worker Co-op weekend but are keen to still have one or more explicitly CoTech meetups.

We're likely to host at least one in Space4 which has, very excitingly, just secured a 10 year lease on a new building. Perhaps now there's twice as much it should be Space8.

CCC

Congratulations @harryrobbins on the new lease, that is great news :-)

On the last call we discussed having a Autumn CoTech gathering in Newcastle and hopefully that will happen.

In terms of what next, do we need to first decide, as CoTech, if we are interested in an additional day at Thornbridge at the beginning?

I think having an extra day would be good if we have enough people prepared to help organise and who are prepared to come, so perhaps another poll for this...

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) started a dot vote Tue 2 Jul 2019

CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend Options Closed Tue 16 Jul 2019

Outcome
by Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Fri 10 Jan

Two people are willing to help organise this and 5 out of 6 people who intend to attend would like an additional CoTech day at the start.

Some questions to gauge the level of support for an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend and how many people are prepared to help organise things.

6 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?
5 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
2 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
CCC
1 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
1 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?
CB(

Chris Booth (Form & Function) Tue 2 Jul 2019

1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
1 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?
0 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
AHC
1 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
0 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?

I think someone from AC will be up for helping organise, if not me personally. I would suggest arrival on Thursday evening so that the Friday could be CoTech only might work? I don't think we could afford a whole extra day plus the weekend.

AHC
1 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
1 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?

I think someone from AC will be up for helping organise, if not me personally. I would suggest arrival on Thursday evening so that the Friday could be CoTech only might work? I don't think we could afford a whole extra day plus the weekend.

SWS
1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
1 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?
0 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?
MSC
2 - Are you intending attending the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020?
1 - Would you attend an additional CoTech day at the start of the weekend (Thur-Sun)?
0 - Are you willing to help organise the CoTech / Workers Co-op Weekend 2020?

I'll be sorting the catering for the worker co-op weekend. I'm assuming that it'll be covering both events too, but will need confirming with John Atherton.

CCC

Aaron wrote:

I would suggest arrival on Thursday evening so that the Friday could be CoTech only might work?

Yes, that is what I intended to express in the poll! Sorry it wasn't clear.

CCC

This poll is closing tomorrow, it would be great is some other people would chime in!

I suggest that all the people who have indicated that they would be willing to help organise this have a quick conference call after the poll has closes to discuss what to do next (at the moment it looks like this might just be me and @aaronhirtenstein ).

MSC

Sorry voted none of the above whilst trying to figure out how dot vote works - please ignore

CCC

No worries, it probably wasn't the right type of poll in the first place, really fantastic to hear that you would be on for catering for an additional day, I was going to suggest us all going to a chippy in Bakewell, but this would be a load better! The food you did this year was really great :-)

FL

Felix Lozano Tue 16 Jul 2019

Hi CoTech

I was away and missed the vote. I would collaborate in a Cotech-worker combo coop weekend.

G

Graham Mon 15 Jul 2019

I've not voted because I don't know if I'll participate in the event. If I did decide to participate it's pretty unlikely that I'd have the time to dedicate three or four days to it unless someone was paying me to be there. The decision to participate will be based on the proposed content of the event/s, the cost of participating, and what else I'll have on at that time. Would love to be more enthusiastic, but this is how it works in practice for me.

P

PollyRobbinsOutlandish Mon 15 Jul 2019

I'm up for joining your chat @aaronhirtenstein and @chriscroome to discuss how to plan for the event, or multiple events throughout the coming year.

PB

Pete Burden Wed 17 Jul 2019

Missed the poll but up for helping if I can.

AHC

I have heard from John Atherton at Coops UK that the date of the Worker Coop Weekend has changed to 15th - 17th May to avoid it being on the May Bank Holiday weekend.

CCC

At the CoTech gathering in Newcastle there was support for having CoTech sessions at the Workers Co-op Weekend in 2020 and Aaron has committed to discussing what we need to do next at the next Co-operatives UK Workers Council meeting in January 2020.

CCC

Photos of the flip charts from Newcastle in December 2019 follow.