Loomio
Wed 4 Nov 2015 12:33AM

Abstention - Part 2 : Make wording in votes more congruent

FB Fabio Balli Public Seen by 214

This is a fork of https://www.loomio.org/d/uFwWM58m/abstention-do-loomio-voting-options-foster-participation-, which aims to make viewers but non voters visible, ie abstention.

This discussion aims to clarify the words used to describe the voting groups. Proposal :

a) Rename the orange "Abstain" to "Undecided"
b) Change "Show undecided members" to "Show members who did not open the proposal",
c) Use "abstain" for the automatic counting of viewers
d) Change the red "Block" to "Stop"

JK

Joop Kiefte (LaPingvino)
Agree
Thu 5 Nov 2015 9:56PM

Was unsure about the Stop thing first, but reading on a little it seems to be a quite consistent proposal. I would recommend to test it well first though!

PF

Paul Fenwick
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 3:34AM

I've never viewed the "abstain" as "undecided". It's an active choice: I've read the content, but don't feel I can provide meaningful input. I abstain a lot around experts.

If viewers were shown in charts, I'd just call them "viewers".

JK

James Kiesel
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 5:40AM

(See comment)

Z

zack
Agree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 5:51AM

I vote for the changes with one remark for c) abstain should definitely count the people active in the discussion who didn't vote. And they are the ones which commented not the viewers.

GC

Greg Cassel
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 5:56AM

I made a few comments earlier but forgot to vote

DU

GB
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 8:28AM

too many proposals at a time

NK

Neofytos Kolokotronis
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 1:08PM

This raises issues of privacy (stats kept and visible on who read what)
Instead, it could be written anonymously in letters under the pie (x people did not open the thread)
Block to Stop change sounds good to me though!

RJ

Raphaël Jadot
Agree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 1:53PM

Same as @joope

BK

Benjamin Knight
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 4:50PM

I think abstention and view count are two quite different things.

JW

Jochen Walter
Disagree
Fri 6 Nov 2015 7:48PM

Now I understand Part 1. I disagree, in special b) because it doesn't matter if someone did not read the proposal or did not decide. In both cases the group or the proposer should try to get in contact with the undecided (readers and not-readers).

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