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Fri 17 Aug 2018

*Values at Work: Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon* by G. Cheney

MC
Matthew Cropp Public Seen by 310

A thread to discuss the book!

CW

Great! When are we meeting to discuss the book?

MK

Michele Kipiel Fri 17 Aug 2018

Hi, 28 August at 9pm CEST won the time poll. I'll send out an RSVP later

DK

Derek Kozel Sat 18 Aug 2018

Oh! The poll's times are displaying two hours wrong for me! It shows as August 28, 10 PM British Summer Time (UTC+1). I can attend if it is actually 8 PM (UTC+1)

MN

Matt Noyes Fri 17 Aug 2018

Here is a slideshow prepared by George Cheney for the group.

MK

Michele Kipiel Fri 17 Aug 2018

Like in "he did this for us"? :O

MN

Matt Noyes Fri 17 Aug 2018

Yes, he adapted it for us and is happy to talk with us about the book. 💃

MK

Michele Kipiel Sun 19 Aug 2018

wow that's great!

DU

[deactivated account] Sat 18 Aug 2018

I just came across a PDF copy of the book, in case anyone has had trouble tracking down a hard copy:
http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Cooperatives/Mondragon/Values_at_Work-Employee_Participation_Meets_Market_Pressure_at_Mondragon-1999.pdf

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mike_hales Sat 18 Aug 2018

Unable to participate in this session (deadline!) :slight_frown: but thanks for extra resources @mattnoyes @scottmills

MK

Michele Kipiel started a check Sun 19 Aug 2018

RSVP - "Values at work" reading group call Closed Wed 22 Aug 2018

Outcome
by Michele Kipiel Mon 27 Aug 2018

Here's the link to the conference call: https://meet.jit.si/readingGroup

See you all tomorrow at 9pm CEST!

Please confirm you will be able to attend the 4th reading group call on the 28 of August at 9PM (CEST).

4 - Yes
5 - No
ED

emi do
Yes
Sun 19 Aug 2018

I will try my best but it's 4am Tokyo time so might not be able to pull myself out of bed!

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mike_hales
No
Mon 20 Aug 2018

Deadlines to meet, sorry. Next time!

CW

Check my thinking. I’m in Vermont, USA. So, 9 pm CEST = 3 pm EDT the next day for me (Aug 29th). Or is it the same day but 6 hours earlier?

DU

[deactivated account]
No
Tue 21 Aug 2018

Unfortunately, I have another meeting at that time. Thank you.

DU

[deactivated account]
No
Tue 21 Aug 2018

It doesn't look like I'll be able to read this one in time for the call. I'll definitely join for the next though.

MC

Matthew Cropp Wed 22 Aug 2018

@caitlinwaddick The Vermont time should be 3pm on August 28th, not 29th. I'll be in an unavoidable work meeting then, but will be interested to glean folks' thoughts.

MN

Matt Noyes Wed 22 Aug 2018

CW

I’m in New York City time. The time charts tell me different times for the meeting for my time zone. When I figure it out on my own, I get 3 pm.

Would someone post or mail me the call-in number? I’ll join by phone initially. I can get in front of a connected computer closer to 30 minutes into our meeting

MK

Michele Kipiel Tue 28 Aug 2018

Hello everyone,

I am sorry but I don't feel like doing this today. Yesterday's situation wrecked my nerves and I don't think I can go through a book about cooperative values right now .

Feel free to hold the call anyway, I will be glad to read the recap after the call.

Thanks and sorry for the short notice.

MN

Matt Noyes Tue 28 Aug 2018

Hi Michele,

No problem -- it is good to take care of yourself and participate
when you are feeling good about it.

I am available and while still a little agitated, feeling like a
conversation about this book might be a useful way to center us a
bit.

Emi, Caitlin, and Derek said they could participate -- are you
all still up for it?

I am willing to host the call on zoom...

Take care,

-Matt

DK

Derek Kozel Tue 28 Aug 2018

I'm frankly under-prepared. I can make the call and am looking forward to the conversations, but it seems likely that more people could attend if we tried to reschedule and a few people with conflicts or who have not had time to read the book could possibly join.

MN

Matt Noyes Tue 28 Aug 2018

Thanks Derek -- given that our numbers are few, it definitely
makes sense to reschedule.

Michele -- I will notify people that it is postponed, can you do
a new schedule poll in a few days?

Also, maybe we should ask George Cheney to join us in that call.
We had originally decided to meet once before asking him to meet
with us, but I think it might add good energy to bring him in for
our first conversation. What do you all think?

-Matt

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emi do Tue 28 Aug 2018

just crawled out of bed. happy it's being rescheduled!! cheney = awesome!

CW

Rescheduling would great. I am also underprepared. At our start time, I would join by phone while driving home, then join by computer by video.

MN

Matt Noyes Sun 9 Sep 2018

So, about rescheduling... Is it too soon? Or would it be a welcome break? Certainly the basic questions of values and organization are relevant. Also, I'd like to give George Cheney advance notice.

ED

emi do Sun 9 Sep 2018

Rescheduling it soon would be great! Think it'd be a great way to talk (co-op) shop.

MN

Matt Noyes started a check Wed 12 Sep 2018

Shall we schedule a meeting of the Reading Group with George Cheney, author of Values at Work? Closed Sat 15 Sep 2018

Checking in to see if there is interest in scheduling this special reading group session. Should I go ahead and ask George about his availability? If we have a small group, maybe we can video the discussion?

4 - Yes
0 - No
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mike_hales
Yes
Wed 12 Sep 2018

I'm through my previous deadline . . so would be glad to participate this time thanks

GC

George Cheney Thu 11 Oct 2018

Hi all. Just checking in. When you set a date (or window) for discussion, just let me know. It would be fun to discuss various people's takes on Mondragon, especially if you've been there recently or have a particular issue/dimension of the system you'd like to discuss..

Thanks much, George

MN

Matt Noyes Thu 11 Oct 2018

Hi George - I think the best bet is to ask you to be our guest on the Social.Coop Happy Hour. We will get a small group of people to interview you about your book and your thoughts on Mondragon. The conversation will be videotaped and uploaded on GEO. Sound okay?

MN

Matt Noyes started a time poll Tue 30 Oct 2018

Social.Coop Happy Hour / Reading Group Closed Mon 5 Nov 2018

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Mon 5 Nov 2018

The Social.Coop Happy Hour / Reading Group date/time is decided. The date shown should be in your local time zone (6pm MDT for me).

Recorded Zoom Video Chat.
George Cheney, author of "Values at Work: Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon" will meet with Social.Coop members to discuss his book and recent developments at Mondragon Corporation, the famous worker cooperative group in the Basque Country of Spain. To participate you must read Values at Work. https://archive.org/details/fp_Values_at_Work-Employee_Participation_Meets_Market_Pressure_at_Mondragon-1999/page/n7

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Wed 19 Dec 2018, 18:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Thu 20 Dec 2018, 18:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
6
Fri 21 Dec 2018, 18:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Wed 19 Dec 2018, 20:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Thu 20 Dec 2018, 20:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Fri 21 Dec 2018, 20:00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
4
CW
Sat 22 Dec 2018
Fri 21 Dec 2018
Thu 20 Dec 2018
Sat 22 Dec 2018
Fri 21 Dec 2018
Thu 20 Dec 2018

Yay! Go Matt Noyes! ... September was so busy despite my best efforts at calm. We just couldn’t get it together as a group. I am happy to continue this coversation.

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mike_hales Wed 31 Oct 2018

Sorry folks, after 9pm UK time isn't going to work for me. I turn into a pumpkin.

DK

Derek Kozel Mon 5 Nov 2018

Sat 22 Dec 2018
Fri 21 Dec 2018
Thu 20 Dec 2018

I've selected all the ones that are at 1 AM GMT rather than 3 AM. :) Thursday would be best, Saturday the worst.

MC

Matthew Cropp Mon 5 Nov 2018

Great! @mattnoyes, can we get a check poll w/ date, time, and link for RSVPs?

MN

Matt Noyes started a check Mon 5 Nov 2018

Wed, December 19th, 6pm (MST), Social.Coop Happy Hour/Reading Group Closed Mon 12 Nov 2018

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Tue 13 Nov 2018

The Social.Coop Happy Hour will take place on December 19th, with Josh Davis, Caitlin Waddick, Michaela Fisher, Derek Kozel, Matt Cropp, Matt Noyes and George Cheney. We will record the chat and upload it to GEO.coop. The meeting link is https://zoom.us/j/252469434

Recorded Zoom Video Chat with
George Cheney, author of "Values at Work: Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon" will meet with Social.Coop members to discuss his book and recent developments at Mondragon Corporation, the famous worker cooperative group in the Basque Country of Spain. To participate you must read Values at Work. https://archive.org/details/fp_Values_at_Work-Employee_Participation_Meets_Market_Pressure_at_Mondragon-1999/page/n7

6 - Yes
0 - No
CW

Yes. (Caveat: My schedule is subject to change that week at the last minute.)

GC

George Cheney Tue 6 Nov 2018

Yes

MN

Matt Noyes Thu 8 Nov 2018

Please do the check-in poll so we know who is on board: @caitlinwaddick , @dkozel @joshdavis -- Micaela Fisher, who is not on Loomio? will also participate.

MN

Matt Noyes Sat 24 Nov 2018

Hi friends, as you know, for our discussion of George Cheney’s #ValuesatWork we will record the Zoom chat and upload the audio to GEO.coop as Episode 2 of the “Social.Coop Happy Hour.”

Thanks to @leosammallahti one week before the call we will also open a Q&A thread on WeCo.io where people can post questions about the book, or about Mondragon. Post here https://www.weco.io/b/co-ops with these hastags #coopreading #mondragon

For every Social.Coop member who posts, WeCo will donate $1 to Social.Coop, to incentivize cross-platform pollination!!

Please join us!

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Leo Sammallahti Sat 24 Nov 2018

I will make a post with screenshots and a short video within a week to describe in more detail!

Here's my original Loomio post about this idea and here's an old video I made to social coop about WeCo cooperative branch.

MN

Matt Noyes started a check Sun 16 Dec 2018

RSVP2 -- Social.Coop Happy Hour/Reading Group Closed Wed 19 Dec 2018

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Wed 19 Dec 2018

Postponed! -- Sad to say, George is ill. We hope he gets well soon and we will re-schedule for the new year!

I made a simple draft agenda for our 12/19 Social.Coop Happy Hour -- please read and edit. https://pad.disroot.org/p/social.coop_happy_hour_GC
December 19th, 18:00, MST

6 - Yes
3 - No
MC

Matthew Cropp
No
Sun 16 Dec 2018

Was just reminded I have another co-op's board meeting that night at 7:30, so will have to miss. :( Very interested in watching the recording of the conversation...

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emi do
Yes
Mon 17 Dec 2018

looks great! jealous i'm going to miss it!

ED

emi do
No
Mon 17 Dec 2018

agenda looks great! jealous i'm going to miss it!

CCE

Clark C. Evans
No
Mon 17 Dec 2018

sadly, I typically coach 6-12 year old swimming from 4-7pm CST, 17-20MST.

CW

I’ll be there !

MN

Matt Noyes Tue 18 Dec 2018

George Cheney has shared a short outline of his book -- very helpful.

MN

Matt Noyes Wed 19 Dec 2018

POSTPONED
Social.Coop Happy Hour with @georgecheney has been postponed. (George is ill.)
We will propose a new date soon, hopefully in Mid-January...