Loomio
Sat 18 Nov 2017 3:24AM

Federation Policy

FHM Fabián Heredia Montiel Public Seen by 284

I think that while the Code of Conduct will take more time and effort, a simple Federation Policy might improve the Federated Timeline and the overall social.coop experience.

Federation Policy

  1. An instance will be silenced if it meets any of the following criteria:
  • Explicitly allows something forbidden by Social.coop's Code of Conduct
  • The instance has as one of its goals shitposting or the instance has no moderation policy.

The following are examples of any of the instances that would be silenced:

  • sealion.club (shitposting)
  • shitposter.club (shitposting)
  • toot.love (no moderation)
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Simon Grant
Abstain
Mon 27 Aug 2018 12:05AM

I'm still abstaining, but would like to elaborate other aspects of my reason. To me, the question of which instances are muted should depend on the preferences of the user body as a whole. If all users have come to reasonable consensus on a clear enough policy, then fine for the referral team / communication quality team to mute an instance that clearly falls within the agreed policy. Otherwise, not clear.

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Nick S
Abstain
Mon 27 Aug 2018 11:29AM

I agree we should give the standing jury (or whatever we call it) "power to mute an instance" as a matter of expediency. However, it should have guidelines. I'd not agree that a stated dedication to "shitposting" is worthy of muting a whole instance, since it can just mean irreverence, frivolity, or bad language (which we have on social.coop). Nor should a "incompatibility" in CoC, as that's also too vague and broad. "Freespeech" is not "no moderation" nor is it necessarily offensive or libel.

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Matt Noyes
Disagree
Mon 27 Aug 2018 4:32PM

I agree with @h and Edward L Platt. Also, it seems better to have an identified group be making these decisions. The cases need to be publicized on social.coop: "XYZ instance was silenced on Aug 23rd 2018 because..." -- On reflection, I am concerned about the process here and worried that this temporary solution might drift into permanency... Many people voiced important concerns and objections that should be explicitly taken into account before passing something like this.

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Simon Grant
Disagree
Mon 27 Aug 2018 4:59PM

OK I've moved to disagreeing here. To me, the question of which instances are muted should depend on the preferences of the user body as a whole. If all users have come to reasonable consensus on a clear enough policy, then fine for the referral team / communication quality team to mute an instance that clearly falls within the agreed policy. Otherwise, not clear. I disagree because we shouldn't assume a policy and then implement it immediately like this.

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Robin
Agree
Mon 27 Aug 2018 8:11PM

Might be worth clarifying what's meant by "shitposting" here but I think I agree with the intent

DU
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Matthew Cropp Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:23AM

On the BOFA front, their admin posted about the situation, and it sounds like they are essentially inviting instance mutes, so that seems reasonable.

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Gil Scott Fitzgerald Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:25AM

Hey Matt that link is broken

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Jake Beamish Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:32AM

It was a link to a toot that might have just been deleted, it loaded about 15 mins ago. It roughly explained that they had been asked to ban a user by another instance or the whole instance would be blocked/silenced. They chose not to ban said user.

Also relevant, from bofa.lol/about/more: "We have one general rule: Don't be a dick. Bofa's notion of basic decency consists chiefly of not denigrating others on the basis of race, ethnicity, faith, gender/gender non-conformity, sexual orientation, etc. If you want to be a bigot or a misogynist, do it on someone else's instance."

FHM

Fabián Heredia Montiel Tue 21 Aug 2018 1:23AM

Hi, to address some concerns.

Here is my interpretation of the situation that might need some formalization:

The standing jury is accountable to both the CWG and the Coop at large. Decisions on CWG and the Coop take precedence over decisions of the jury.

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