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The deadline for session proposals is due today. It would be a great opportunity again to promote preprints. Is there a townhall meeting or something similar suggested already? @danielnust @geoda @christopherjackson1 @tomnarock1

CJ

Christopher Jackson Thu 6 Sep 2018

Shit. I missed this. I’m on for doing this again! Can we hustle and get something together based on last years abstract?

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 6 Sep 2018

For the townhall we just need a title and a description I think. So 3-4 sentences might even be sufficient (can be probably be copied from last year). For the title I would suggest something less specific than last year, such as "Free your science: How preprints can change the way we do science".

CJ

Christopher Jackson Thu 6 Sep 2018

Sounds good to me! I’m planning on being there for the whole week.

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 6 Sep 2018

Great. Do you want to submit or should I do it?

CJ

Christopher Jackson Thu 6 Sep 2018

Go for it, please, if you can. I’m home with the baby and about to head out to collect the other two...

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 6 Sep 2018

Allright! Thanks for the quick reply anyways.

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David Thu 6 Sep 2018

Sorry not to react earlier. I'm still on hold and chances are I won't attend EGU'19. If I'm there, I'll help

SG

Stéphanie Girardclos Fri 7 Sep 2018

I won't attend EGU but it is a great idea !

SG

Stéphanie Girardclos Fri 7 Sep 2018

I think it would be also great to organize something in one year at IAS in Roma (Sept 10-13, 2019). A session (- does it make sense) ? A talk ? Any other event ? Any idea where we could find the money to organize an apero where we would explain EarthArXiv and distribute stickers ? Who is going (I'll be there) ? Who has ideas and feels like organizing something with me ? Deadline for session proposal is in October but it's better if we don't do it last minute then we have time to ask around, or maybe include some of the ambassadors working in sedimentology.

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Daniel Nüst Tue 11 Sep 2018

Too late to the party? Did you submit a session @friedrich1 ?

The deadline for townhall meetings is only in January, so happy to help. Changes of me going to EGU are 50/50 at the moment.

DU

[deactivated account] Tue 11 Sep 2018

Ah, I see. I was panicking without reason then :) I did submit the townhall, and register you as a convener as well. So I guess its good its already done :)

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 12 Sep 2018

Hi @sgirardclos! I think IAS would be good, given they also have sessions on paper-writing, etc. I won't be going, but I'd be very happy to support the endevour. One of my best friends is now Editor-in-Chief of Sedimentology, so we could perhaps try and get their endorsement too, given they accept preprints. And @friedrich1: thanks for submitting the townhall proposal to EGU. Chris

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Stéphanie Girardclos Wed 12 Sep 2018

Hi @christopherjackson3 ! Thank you for the support. You have another friend at Sedimentology -> me ! :laughing: I'm Sedimentology Associate Editor
The new IAS president (D.Ariztegui) is in the office next to mine. I'll talk with him about possibilities, even better than with the Sedimentology staff. He likes the @EarthArXiv initiative and knows all about it.

For the IAS Roma I would like to do something fun.
I'm thinking of a 'Be-your-own-editor bar', i.e. proposing instantenous preprint publication (and free bier-beverage if I get a sponsor) under the motto 'I publish when I wish' (required people bring their .pdf we would announce it beforehand). I would give advice, validate submissions and answer questions.
Of course, I'll have to manage my double hat (editor here and there) but I see this all as a continuum of publication.
Any remarks/ideas from you girls and guys ? What do you think you the idea ? If anyone of you comes to IAS Roma and wishes to help, it would be great.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 12 Sep 2018

Hi Stéphanie,

Ah, so you work with Ian Kane then?!

It’s great to hear Daniel is positive towards preprints and EarthArXiv. And I think this is an absolutely fantastic idea, which we could also work into next year’s EGU effort. Maybe even AGU, although I’m personally
not planning on going this year. I’d be happy to offer as much support as you need for the IAS plan.

Chris


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

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Stéphanie Girardclos Wed 12 Sep 2018

Cool. I'm happy you like the idea. But I need to develop it a bit more. I'll talk to the cool young ones of my Dept to see if they adhere to the idea or have other ones regarding EarthArXiv. This year at ISC Québec there was a nice Young scientist booth where the young sedimentologists organized mini informal talks during poster sessions that was good, fun and busy.
Yes I work remotely as (not paid - to clarify) Assoc. Editor for Sedimentology but I haven't had Ian as Chief Editor yet.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 12 Sep 2018

No worries. Let me know when you know more.


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


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Victor Venema Thu 13 Sep 2018

I plan to come to EGU as well this year. Happy to help.

Last week I presented the concept of grassroots journals at two conferences and the feedback was positive. So I have decided to get serious and would also like to present it at EGU.
https://grassroots.is/

So we could have:
Be your own Publisher (EarthArXiv) &
Be your own Editor (Grassroots journals).

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 13 Sep 2018

Hi Victor, good to hear that you are also going to be there. I think we can integrate the idea of grassroots into the townhall meeting, as this year we had plenty of time left.

VV

Victor Venema Thu 13 Sep 2018

Wonderful. Would be great to combine. Grassroots journals by itself is still quite small in 2019. Do you have my mail? Victor.Venema@uni-bonn.de

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David Tue 19 Mar 2019

Any plans for an EGU meeting/dinner of EA-philes?

DN

Daniel Nüst Tue 19 Mar 2019

I'd like to go for dinner after the townhall.

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David Sun 24 Mar 2019

I have a dinner arrange on Tuesday, so I hope we could do it other day, or mix them?

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 25 Mar 2019

Hi EarthArXiv,

I'll be around at EGU and could definitely do dinner after the townhall on the Tuesday evening. I've also been in touch with the Communications Officer at EGU, who has offered us a 'pop-up' slot in the ECS & Networking zone. It looks likely the slot will be Thursday at 1300. If anyone else can make it, that would be great! We could give a potted version of the main presentation, and then help people upload material, explore the site, etc. I think mentioning Plan S, etc, is a good thing, as preprints clearly have a role to play there. RE: the presentation, the attached is a version of a talk I gave to UT Austin a week or so ago. It contains the last set of statistics I had, drawn from the EOS paper, although they could be updated. Happy for feedback on this!

Chris

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David Mon 25 Mar 2019

I'll check my planning (I'm travelling, so tomorrow) to see if I can make this. Even if not possible for me, I can do something similar in an informal manner while in the ECS area. I'm supposed to be there in my "free time" during the meeting (becoming representative this year)

DU

[deactivated account] Mon 25 Mar 2019

Sorry Chris, I cant see the presentation you attached. Can you upload it in a different way?

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 25 Mar 2019

Does this work?


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint archive for the Earth Sciences


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David Tue 26 Mar 2019

I can help with the ECS slot on Thursday 13h :)

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David Tue 26 Mar 2019

People of the Tuesday dinner...! Do you mind if I mix it with another "thematic" dinner on NW Africa post-rift tectonics? If so, please let me know who's coming, so I book it for all?

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 27 Mar 2019

No worries. More the merrier.


Professor Christopher A-L. Jackson

Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson )

Twitter:
@seis_matters ( https://mobile.twitter.com/seis_matters )


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint
archive for the Earth Sciences

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 27 Mar 2019

Thanks!


Professor Christopher A-L. Jackson

Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson )

Twitter:
@seis_matters ( https://mobile.twitter.com/seis_matters )


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint
archive for the Earth Sciences

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 21 Mar 2019

Its time to update the presentation. Can anyone provide the new statistics? Do you feel anything was missing last year (presentation can be found here: https://eartharxiv.github.io/resources.html)?
I would then update the presentation next week and ask for feedback again.

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David Sun 24 Mar 2019

I'll get some numbers and examples of success from Twitter

DN

Daniel Nüst Thu 21 Mar 2019

I think it could be interesting / start a discussion if we mention a few things that have happened during the last year, such as Coalition S, the developments of the Open Science MOOC, the ongoing disruption of academic publishing, ...

DU

[deactivated account] Mon 25 Mar 2019

Great idea Daniel. Definitely a good way to lead over to discussion. Could you put togetheer a few slides?

DN

Daniel Nüst Mon 25 Mar 2019

Unfortunately, I have to say "no" to that, at least for the next two weeks. Sorry, will get in touch if that changes.

DN

Daniel Nüst Mon 25 Mar 2019

Did you guys all get an invite to the conveners reception on Friday? If not and if you're still at EGU on Friday evening, I'm happy to put one of you down as my guest. Just let me know soon.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 25 Mar 2019

Yeah. I got an invite. I get invites to all the big parties...;-)

DN

Daniel Nüst Mon 25 Mar 2019

Huh... I would have thought you might have problems the second time around ;-)

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David Tue 26 Mar 2019

I'm covered, but thanks!

TN

Tom Narock Mon 25 Mar 2019

I made a few edits to the EarthArXiv EGU TownHall powerpoint. Tried to update it with recent stats. It's not yet on the EarthArXiv website, but if you'd like to take a look, it's here: https://github.com/eartharxiv/eartharxiv.github.io/blob/master/resources/EarthArXiv_TOWNHALL_03_2019.pptx

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 25 Mar 2019

Thanks Tom, but how do I download/view the file on Github? Sorry, github novice here...:-(

TN

Tom Narock Mon 25 Mar 2019

There's a "Download" button halfway down the page, on the right.

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Victor Venema Mon 25 Mar 2019

Looks good. Thanks for preparing the slides. Unfortunately I will not be at EGU this year.

Only noticed a minor point: slide 25 with all the open science stages is missing preprinting. We could see it as part of publishing. Then I would add our logo there.

DU

[deactivated account] Tue 26 Mar 2019

Thanks Tom for the updates! I scanned the presentation as well and added and deleted some minor things. I think when @geoda supplied the new Twitter-slides we should be ready to go!

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David Fri 29 Mar 2019

I take care of this tomorrow, I promise!

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David Sun 31 Mar 2019

Here my input to the TownHall presentation

DU

[deactivated account] Mon 1 Apr 2019

Allright, I think we are good to go then!

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David Mon 1 Apr 2019

@christopherjackson3 I guess you'll give the presentation, am I right? Or are we thinking on a multi-presenter talk?

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 1 Apr 2019

We can all take a turn…☺


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint archive for the Earth Sciences


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David Mon 1 Apr 2019

Ok, thought I much rather learn from your mastery on the subject, and probably people like it better, as well

CJ

Christopher Jackson Mon 1 Apr 2019

Pffft. Doubt it. More people the merrier!


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint archive for the Earth Sciences


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David Mon 1 Apr 2019

Ok then, count with my sword

RW

Rebecca Williams Fri 5 Apr 2019

Hi All,
I'm hoping to get along to the Townhall if you need an extra hand to distribute material or whatever. Just let me know.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Fri 5 Apr 2019

Hi Becky,

That would be awesome! I didn’t know you were coming.

Chris


Professor Christopher A-L. Jackson

Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson )

Twitter:
@seis_matters ( https://mobile.twitter.com/seis_matters )


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint
archive for the Earth Sciences

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David Fri 5 Apr 2019

Great! Shall I include you in the dinner after the event?

RW

Rebecca Williams Fri 5 Apr 2019

My coming to EGU has been off/on/off/on...ON!

CJ

Christopher Jackson Fri 5 Apr 2019

boom


Professor Christopher A-L. Jackson

Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/c.jackson )

Twitter:
@seis_matters ( https://mobile.twitter.com/seis_matters )


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint
archive for the Earth Sciences

APR

Angelo Pio Rossi Fri 5 Apr 2019

Apologies for being so late in the thread.

I should be also at EGU but only from wed pm (for OSGeo/openplanetary townhall 19h) onwards

Cheers

Angelo p

Sent from a mobile device.Apologies for typos and conciseness.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Fri 5 Apr 2019

Cool. Let’s meet-up anyway! Maybe you can come to the ECR pop-up we’re doing on the Thursday?


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint archive for the Earth Sciences


My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obliged to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.

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David Fri 5 Apr 2019

To expand on Chris comment- The pop-up event thingie is Thursday at 13.00 in the Networking & Early Career Scientists’ Zone at Red Level -- http://bit.ly/2IfoItY

RW

Rebecca Williams Fri 5 Apr 2019

yeah, great, thank you David.

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David Fri 5 Apr 2019

Ok, wonderful! We'll be going to 1516 The Brewing Company at Schwarzenbergstraße 2, CP 1010, and may start at 9pm. I hope you like beer! :)

DI

Daniel Ibarra Fri 5 Apr 2019

I'll be there too!

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David Fri 5 Apr 2019

Nice!! Tuesday dinner slot for you too?

DI

Daniel Ibarra Fri 5 Apr 2019

yes please!

CJ

Christopher Jackson Fri 5 Apr 2019

🥳


Professor Christopher Aiden-Lee Jackson

Equinor Professor of Basin Analysis

Basins Research Group (BRG ( http://www.basinsresearchgroup.com/ ))

Department of Earth Science & Engineering

Imperial College

Prince Consort Road

LONDON

SW7 2BP

UK

Email: c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk ( c.jackson@imperial.ac.uk )

Web: www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson ( http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/c.jackson )

Twitter: @seis_matters


Co-founder of EarthArXiv ( https://eartharxiv.org/ ), a preprint server and postprint archive for the Earth Sciences


My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obliged to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.

SL

Sabine Lengger Sat 6 Apr 2019

Hi all, also going to EGU, excited to meet you all. Definitely will come to Townhall and would also like to come to dinner! Was it right after the townhall?

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David Sat 6 Apr 2019

Fantastic! I guess all of us at the townhall we'll be getting to the dinner together, but just in case - 1516 The Brewing Company at Schwarzenbergstraße 2, CP 1010, with dinner booked at 9pm.

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David Sat 6 Apr 2019

Anyone else coming to the dinner?? Please let me know!!
(several changes to booking already!)

DU

[deactivated account] Wed 17 Apr 2019

Well well... Thats what EGU send this morning. Find the error: "Poster authors can upload their poster PDF to the community preprint server ESSOAr, the Earth and Space Science Open Archive, at https://www.essoar.org."

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 17 Apr 2019

🤔

VV

Victor Venema Wed 17 Apr 2019

ESSOAr hosts posters, we are somehow more restrictive. I personally wish we were not. See discussion on software papers and reproduction papers. Also reports would be fine by me. As long as it is Earth Science.

CJ

Christopher Jackson Wed 17 Apr 2019

ESSOAr are essentially a poster archive; they have c. 840 submissions, of which c. 790 are posters...In that respect, we have a clear identity, although we could indeed move onto their turf @victorvenema by accepting posters. My personal preferences remains to keep crafting our own identify. Indeed, the Advisory Board are actively discussing accepting software. It looks likely this will happen, so we'll let everyone know when we are ready for additional input. Thanks!

VV

Victor Venema Wed 17 Apr 2019

What are the consideration? What are the positives about being restrictive with the types of texts we allow?

I would like to see science move away from the idea that the only thing that counts is an article. So I see value in accepting any scientifically valuable text the system can handle. (I guess interactive labnotebooks would be a technical challenge. :thinking: )

BC

Bruce Caron Wed 17 Apr 2019

Also, the ESSOAr poster UX is horrible... they have done the bare minimum for the user. You can't see the poster unless you download it (on the up-side, this pads the download metrics :slight_smile: ). They only post the text of the abstract... with no attempt to pull text from the poster that might be of value for your search... and no attempt to handle any of the graphics on their side either. The poster is just this BLOB you can download to look at. And they paid Wiley for their closed platform. Probably not a lot of innovation pathways in front of them. Figshare has a much better UX.