Loomio
Tue 27 Nov 2012 12:37AM

How many people from each timebank should be on loomio

HM Hannah Mackintosh Public Seen by 64

This is a discussion around who we want in this loomio group.

Currently some timebanks have multiple people in the group and others just have one person represented.

Please state your views on how many people you think should be part of the loomio discussion from each timebank.

SR

Sarah Rogers Mon 3 Dec 2012 5:38AM

What Hannah said!

MT

Miles Thompson Mon 3 Dec 2012 8:00AM

I'd certainly agree in that I'd like to see as many people as are keen to participate be members of the loomio. Yes I'd like to do that if we can figure out how to seperate that from voting.

When it comes to actually voting on decisions however I'd like to see us sort out a fairly simple and robust mechanism for making decisions now that can sort us out nicely for at least a few years into the future, and I don't think 'anyone who wants to can join and vote' is a good longer term rule as its obviously very open to last minute ballot stuffing.

Not facing up to this now feels to me like leaving undone important foundational work which may trip people up in the future when they might have other more pressing issues to deal with.

We could have "anyone can join but only up to two people from any given timebank can vote on any given proposal" rule? How about that?

PS

Paul Smith Mon 3 Dec 2012 11:28PM

One thing to keep in mind is that we currently have 20 invites left, which is a fair few but we'll need to get the limit bumped up a little soon.

However I really feel like anyone who is invited should be able to vote and I don't think we should cap the number of people available per timebank because the people it would leaveout will have really important parts to contribute to the overall TBANZ.

Like @hannahmackintosh said I think if someone wants to be involved their voice should be here.

MT

Miles Thompson Tue 4 Dec 2012 6:13AM

Hmm.. just noting the (perhaps not so) subtle difference between 'anyone who is invited can vote' and 'anyone who wants to join can vote'.

Incidentally I'm sure we'll be able to get a few more invites from loom.io if we need them. Yeah?

Inicdentally, I raised the idea of adding a feature to loomio to support counting votes differently for more binding resolutions and received what I thought was encouraging response from Richard Bartlett. Not that it would be added next week or anything but its got him thinking. We could probably get by on just an informal agreement in the meantime though if we wanted to go that route.

PS

Paul Smith Thu 6 Dec 2012 9:33PM

Yup I've talked to the rest of loomio and we can get more invites when we need them so... that's not actually an issue.

I'm starting to see a trend where for the bigger decisions it seems like having a representative from each timebank having a "binding" vote while still allowing anyone who's interested or effected by a decision to weigh in?

I think right now an informal agreement is the way to go with the idea that once we've got the feature we can go that route?

BM

Benedict McHugo Fri 7 Dec 2012 5:40PM

Like the thought of everybody that wants to contribute can. Would like to see some form of voting process that fiar and easy

J

Joybells Fri 7 Dec 2012 8:01PM

Following from Hannahs comment "I think the more people who want to be involved at decision making at a national level the better." Can you please clarify for me how does someone get on this Loomio group? is it anyone anywhere in NZ with any sort of interest in timebanking and do they just ask Hannah or Paul and then they are on or is there some vetting process as in do they need to profess to stand by the 5 core priciples and 1hr for 1hr?? Or do they need to be actually a participating member of a timebank? sorry if this was discussed elsewhere but I missed the conclusion

DS

Poll Created Sat 8 Dec 2012 1:00AM

Any member of a TBANZ-affiliated TimeBank can help make decisions in this Loomio group Closed Tue 11 Dec 2012 4:40PM

In order to be invited to participate in TBANZ decision-making using Loomio, a person must be a member of a Timebank group which is affiliated to TBANZ. That means the group subscribes to the core values endorsed by TBANZ, agrees to arrange representation at each TBANZ hui, and abides by any charter of rules formalized by the TBANZ network.
* Being part of a steering group for a new TB not yet on CommunityWeaver counts if they meet the above criteria.
* Using online exchange software other than CW is fine, as long as they meet the above criteria

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 85.7% 6 HM PS RR LT SR RS
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 14.3% 1 MT
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 34 DS BM J RS EM RM LK RM NW RR MJ AP SS BL JH CA PM SM AT YDM

7 of 41 people have participated (17%)

PS

Paul Smith
Agree
Sun 9 Dec 2012 7:26PM

I think this is a good start.

MT

Miles Thompson
Disagree
Sun 9 Dec 2012 10:18PM

I think this proposal as it stands could do with a bit work to refine it. That is, per the pop up over 'no' "I think we could do better but if the rest of the group feels like it's the best course of action then I'm OK with it going ahead."

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