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Thu 23 Nov 2017 3:14PM

CoTech structure

HR Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Public Seen by 74

A place to store gather some thoughts about how CoTech should be structured in the run up to the 2017 Retreat

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Thu 23 Nov 2017 3:39PM

Majority voting - one co-op member, one vote (larger co-ops get more votes)

I generally prefer consent, but I think this group is too loose at the moment and the risk of everything getting blocked is too high. I think it voting should be based on the number of people whose livelihoods depend on the decision.

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Thomas Parisot (dtc innovation) Fri 24 Nov 2017 7:02AM

Consent - any co-op can block any motion

Consent could also be written as "all co-op have to agree" — the usual voting mechanism in sociocracy. In spite of being possibly a longer process, this mechanism implies clarity and good arguments which is is a sane default.

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Tim Davies Fri 24 Nov 2017 9:30AM

Consent - any co-op can block any motion

I think it might need a few procedures, such as co-op veto, but such that veto can be overruled by an absolute majority (e.g. 50% of co-op members) - and over-ruled members have option of exist before decision imposed.

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Chris Lowis (Go Free Range) Fri 24 Nov 2017 12:07PM

Consent - any co-op can block any motion

I'm inclined towards consent-based, but we need to decide which issues require voting on. I'd prefer it if most things could be done on an advice basis.

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Hamish Tue 28 Nov 2017 11:02AM

Consent - any co-op can block any motion

In my experience neither consent nor majority work. Accepting consent is ideal, but can also block progress, I have added another option. This allows discussion between vote cycles in order to reach consent.

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Hamish Tue 28 Nov 2017 11:03AM

Consent vote, +1 vote cycle Consent Vote, +1 vote cycle Majority.

In my experience neither consent nor majority work. Accepting consent is ideal, but can also block progress, I have added another option. This allows discussion between vote cycles in order to reach consent.

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Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:37AM

For decision making I'd suggest using consensus where ever possible with a fall back to majority voting when consensus fails, which isn't an option in the current poll.

In terms of how formal CoTech should be I'd suggest that our main priority should be sorting out how we can organise ourselves best to win and deliver work for clients (once we have that solved we should have spare time and resources to address everything else) and that if this necessitates a legal entity then we should set one up and the question of membership cost would be determined by the nature of this organisation.

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Chris Lowis (Go Free Range) Fri 24 Nov 2017 12:10PM

As these are polls, I'm sharing my own opinion not necessarily that of Go Free Range :-)

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Fri 24 Nov 2017 4:29PM

Yes indeed @chrislowis - it's just to gather opinions.

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Doug Belshaw Sun 26 Nov 2017 7:11AM

Thanks for this @harryrobbins - just to make the point that, at present, we're actually all in here as individuals. I think we also need a defined representative from each co-op.

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