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Fri 5 Jun 2020 6:44PM

UK Quarterly Project Q3 2020

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The Q2 project draws to a close at the end of June. Please weigh in any suggestions for what the Q3 project could be!

ML

Martin Lucas-Smith Fri 5 Jun 2020 6:51PM

Conflation of the TfL CID data - which is particularly relevant at present given the increase in cycling levels.

See: https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion
and: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database

GL

Gareth L Fri 5 Jun 2020 6:53PM

I'd also like to suggest cycle infrastructure for the Q3 project. Continuing with the topical theme from Q2 project, the government is encouraging people to walk or cycle more to attempt to limit the number of cars on the road and reduce the number of users of public transport (which if I read that sentence back just 6 months ago would astound me).

So the mapping of cycle infrastructure, routes (their surface, widths too) cycle parking (is it covered/uncovered) etc would be useful across the country.

Furthermore, there is the TfL Cycling Infrastructure Database in London which has been getting prepared for inclusion into OSM is a huge data set.

Refining of UK mapping conventions/guidelines for this kind of infrastructure too will help.

DS

Dan S Sat 6 Jun 2020 11:20AM

An idle thought: footpath and pavement widths would be useful, for safely distanced perambulations. Has anyone looked into how complete our UK data are on this? That's something each person could do in their own local area.

GL

Gareth L Thu 9 Jul 2020 6:20AM

Any further suggestions? At this point it looks likely to be cycling infrastructure (which in many cases can include pavement widths)

HD

Huw Diprose Wed 22 Jul 2020 10:26AM

Hello, I'm new to the community (just trying to fight with paypal to sign up as a member).
I was wondering about a focus on buildings, specifically it seems UPRNs have now been released with OGL licence (https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-government/products/open-uprn). Have we considered using these to both match and enhance tags for existing buildings, but also potentially to highlight problems (buildings that could be subdivided, buildings that have changed since last arial photography, new buildings or areas where buildings are unmapped?)

HD

Huw Diprose Wed 22 Jul 2020 10:31AM

Or alternatively, It seems local authorities keep excellent "difinitive map" of local rights of way. The accessibility of these seems to vary, some LAs have released their data as shapefiles with OGL licencing, others have it as visit only or embeded in propritary software.

I notice many paths in my local area are missing from OSM. Instead of just looking up a walk and making my own traces to fill in gaps, I was wondering if we could request these definitive maps (or FOI data where it isn't published) and then improve the right of way dataset across England and Wales?

RW

Robert Whittaker Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43AM

Details of what Pubic Rights of Way data is available from each Surveying Authority can be found at https://osm.mathmos.net/prow/open-data/ . I've also made a tool to help mappers improve the footpath data in OSM using this official data: https://osm.mathmos.net/prow/progress/ .

HD

Huw Diprose Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:02AM

Hey Robert, I just found some of your work on this and send you a message on OSM! :D

That page looks fantastic, and answers most of the questions i just sent you. Looking forward to getting stuck in!

JN

Jez Nicholson Thu 23 Jul 2020 7:20AM

Hi Huw, and welcome to the community. I assume that you've also found Talk-GB mailing list where a lot of chat goes on https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

The whole UPRN + buildings is definitely building up (no pun intended) to be quarterly project material. This and other data sources could be combined to make building creation much easier...i'm thinking OS Open Data buildings (which are simplified blocks) and Environment Agency LIDAR.

I'd quite like to see a group-owned software development around this to create a new tool.

Paths are a subject close to a number of UK mappers' hearts and lots of work is going on in that area. It has a number of difficulties with copyright issues. Have a poke around on the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access_provisions_in_the_United_Kingdom#UK_local_councils and maybe ask on Talk-GB

HD

Huw Diprose Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:17AM

Hey Jez,

I hadn't actually spotted the mailing list, thanks very much I'll get signed up.

Thanks so much for the welcoming response, I realise I'm blundering in late to the party - those all look like great links.

I'm particuarly interetested in your mention of the developing some new software. I'm a developer in my day job, so happy to pitch in.

I'll go sign up to the mailing list and catch up on the wiki.
Anyway won't hijack this thread any more - looking forward to seeing what the communtiy does in Q3!

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