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Sun 30 Oct 2016 10:50AM

Switching Petition Platforms

TCS Tristan Copley Smith Public Seen by 447

The #WeAreTwitter petition is currently hosted on the Action Network platform. Change.org is an alternative platform interested in hosting our petition for the campaign's re-launch on Monday (tomorrow).

Here are the pros and cons, as highlighted in the #communications channel on Slack:

Pros for moving to Change.org:

  • It is a better known platform with larger community (12m in UK alone)
  • They have offered to support our campaign in newsletters emails to their community in UK an look into other countries as well
  • There have been issues with the Action Network platform including language support, misleading signature goals, smaller user community

Cons for moving to Change.org:

  • Current petition signees will need to re-sign, we may loose some
  • Unlike Action Network, Change.org is for-profit and controversial among some activists (see http://bit.ly/2f0Ep8g)
  • They use cookies and tracking for advertisements
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Amelia Rose Khan
Disagree
Sun 30 Oct 2016 6:39PM

I don't see how change.org is better then AN except for wider outreach help. The outreach help doesn't give me enough to say change.org is better.

BP

Bernardo Parrella
Agree
Sun 30 Oct 2016 6:53PM

even if a bit risky, as others pointed out, it's certainly worth switching -- but we must ensure that it can be translated in as many languages as possible (and collect email addresses)

TM

Tom McDonough
Disagree
Sun 30 Oct 2016 7:07PM

The database of petition signers is our most important asset and must remain independent.
I don't know the backend of either Change or ActionNetwork but keeping the database where it is seems best.

MIS

mai ishikawa sutton
Disagree
Sun 30 Oct 2016 7:44PM

It doesn't seem like the reasons for leaving AN is outweighed by the benefits of Change, especially given its drawbacks re: privacy, being for-profit, lack of ability to control the post-signing page, and questionable lack of language support.

JH

Johnny Haeusler Sun 30 Oct 2016 11:13AM

@katharinasimon Indiego is for crowdfunding in the first place and betterplace isn't international enough. change.org is a little controversial, but they have the largest community and operate worldwide. If we think about countries like Turkey that we haven't reached out for yet, change.org could help the most.

KS

Katharina Simon Sun 30 Oct 2016 11:27AM

Ok then lets do that

JH

Johnny Haeusler Sun 30 Oct 2016 3:31PM

I will cross post this: Who can set up a test petition on change.org to see a) if they allow international campaigns with different languages and b) if we have control over the data generated?

KL

Kirsten Lambertsen Sun 30 Oct 2016 4:01PM

I'm also curious about the re-signing bit. Is that really necessary? Would a new, differently worded petition cancel out our previous petition?

BP

Bernardo Parrella Sun 30 Oct 2016 8:23PM

we are discussing this on slack right now: https://buytwitter.slack.com/messages/petition/ (we'd consolidate all discussion topics in only one place, no? slack seems better for this...even if there is the "loomio bot")

DS

Danny Spitzberg Mon 31 Oct 2016 5:24AM

I'm generally for whatever we can to do amplify our efforts and draw attention to the petition. Also, I see a lot of renewed enthusiasm around this move!

So, to clarify the opportunity and channel our energy, I drafted a 1-page doc with my best shot at summarizing our campaign goals, strategies, tactics, and timeline/escalation – check it out and make comments/edits at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vy-gOGDLDeRLkw48wraNoB8sOZlHXtz1NI9C5YhNfR4/edit.

Now if we believe 100,000 signatures is enough (as @mairasutton commented) to "open doors" to more press coverage and to Twitter (as @johnnyhaeusler said), then we can evaluate our strategies, see how they add up (or not), and coordinate our efforts.

One last thing: 1,529 people already signed one petition. As @ntnsndr has said, we absolutely must send an honest, motivating invitation to these individuals to add their name a second time.

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