Public money? Public code!

Les geeks ont bien compris l'intérêt, ce sont les autres qu'il faut convaincre. Et puis le texte d'introduction parle bien de publier sous licence libre les logiciels financés par l'impôt.

Justement, je ne vois pas le problème, dans la mesure où ce logiciel était de toute façon nécessaire et on aurait donc de toute façon payé pour. La question de rendre un logiciel libre n'est pas vraiment financière.

EDIT: De manière générale, je trouve très réducteur cette vision « comptable » de la société. La question n'est pas « combien ça coûte ? », mais « de quoi avons-nous besoin ? », selon moi. (fin de l'EDIT)

Je ne comprends pas ce que tu ne piges pas (ou ce qu'un citoyen lambda ne pige pas, selon toi) dans nos arguments. À part le "c'est trop technique et conceptuel" qui est à mon sens faux, mais peut-être que c'est une question de goût ?

De toute manière, cela ne m'intéresse pas vraiment de débattre pour débattre :sweat_smile: C'est amusant d'imaginer un contradicteur, mais dans ce contexte je ne sais pas si c'est très productif ?

C'est plus intéressant de savoir si tu es réellement contre la proposition, ou si elle te convient ?

Concernant la réponse que tu as reçue @vanecx , c'est dommage mais compréhensible. Ce n'est pas nouveau que le fait d'être un parti politique ferme des portes... Néanmoins, cela ne nous empêche pas de faire la promotion de cette pétition à l'échelle du parti (via les réseaux sociaux, etc.)

En fait, je pense que le parti pirate doit vulgariser son discours dans les matières technologiques. Je pense qu'encore une fois, le parti est trop en avance par rapport à la société. Il faut informer sur les risques que les GAFAM constituent, la dépendance que l'on développe, et du coup, pourquoi il faut développer le libre.

Je rajoute... Google, Facebook, quels dangers pour la vie privée ? Amazon, quel danger pour le commerce de proximité ? Le dossier médical informatisé, bien ou pas bien ? Tout cela est notre avenir et va radicalement changer notre vie. Mais pour que le message passe, je pense qu'il est nécessaire d'essayer de rendre les choses concrètes, moins techniques. Je comprends tout ce que vous dites... Ma mère, je suis certain que non!

Two years ago, FSFE said this when I contacted them : "As an actor who is engaging in advocacy work for Free Software, we do not necessarily want to associate ourselves with any political movement.", therefore we couldn't sign this campaign as Pirate Party. Today they sent this to all people supporting the campaign :

German Conservative Party demands "Public Money? Public Code!"

Dear Renaud Van Eeckhout,

The Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) welcomes the German CDU's
party convention resolution on the use of Free Software. At its 32nd
party conference this weekend, the CDU resolved to join FSFE in
demanding that software developed with public money should be publicly
available as Free Software. This decision aligns with our "Public
Money? Public Code!" campaign, which is supported by over 170
organisations and 26,000 individuals. Thanks to your support, the
demand has now reached the German conservative party CDU.
________________________________________________________________________

Help us keep working for Free Software.
Support us with a donation now! my.fsfe.org/donate
________________________________________________________________________

Free Software gives everyone the right to use, study, share and improve
software for any purpose. These freedoms strengthen other fundamental
rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press and the right to
privacy. Digital sovereignty can only be achieved through Free
Software. We are pleased that our campaign has now gotten through to
the governing CDU party and that the conservatives support our demand
"Public Money? Public Code!". We now expect the CDU to immediately work
within the government to create the legal basis for publicly funded
software to be released under a Free- and Open-Source Software
license."

The CDU's party convention resolution states:

"The open and jointly developed standards of the Internet and open
interfaces are the principles from which we advance the digitisation of
Germany. It is only through openness that competition can be created;
only through openness can new players in competition challenge the top
dogs. This is why the following will apply to all (public) digitisation
projects in Germany in the future: the awarding of contracts and
funding will be subject to compliance with the principles of open
source and open standards. Software financed by public funds should
serve all citizens. In addition, free and open APIs should facilitate
access for independent developments." (Translation provided by the
FSFE)

You can read the complete resolution for more (German).

Further background information can be found on the campaign website.
The video and other content found there are available for free
distribution under a CC BY-SA 4.0 license.

Best regards,

Matthias Kirschner
FSFE President


I'm still waiting for an email explaining to thousand of people that Pirate Party does the same since more than 10 years... 🤔

Do you still have the original mail where they said we can't sign?

If so you could ask if it is still the case since they are now openly supporting CDU (or at least this one decission). Especially since we don't even ask them to align with ppbe. It's us who ask to openly support them.

I still have this email, yes.

Good idea, I just sent them an email asking about this, will keep you updated.

Dear Renaud, thank you very much for your continuous interest in our work! I think there is a big misunderstanding, I hope I can clarify the situation. The CDU did not sign our open letter, nor any other party. Our policy in this field is still the same: parties cannot sign. Still, the decision by the biggest conservative party in Europe, which is also part of the German government, is a milestone. That's why we published a press release. We would do this with every other party as well if they are in a relevant position. For example we are also having a news item on a Free Software Amendment from the Pirate Party in the Parliament in Kassel and actively promote it (there have been more mailings and activities on social networks to create awareness on this than on the CDU decision). If you have any relevant news, similar to the explain ones above we are happy to share them within our community and in public. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us at any time. Kind regards, Lucas

That's the reply from the Free Software Foundation Europe I just received. So basically, they'll talk about us if we are in a relevant position somewhere (the Kassel article, for example). I think it's quite fair from them, so I don't see the need to insist more on this issue as we are not currently in a relevant position anywhere in Belgium as far as I know.

[FR] C'est la réponse de la Free Software Foundation Europe que je viens de recevoir. Donc, en gros, ils parleront de nous si nous sommes dans une position pertinente quelque part (l'article de Kassel, par exemple). Cela me semble honnête de leur part, donc je ne vois pas la nécessité d'insister davantage sur cette question vu que nous ne sommes actuellement pas dans une position pertinente nulle part en Belgique à ma connaissance.