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crowd funding time (again)

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Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 596

Folks, its time we start crowd funding campaign so we can continue running poddery.com for the next year and forward. Since myself, Manu and Fayad has been taking care of the technical tasks, I would really like someone else to lead the crowd funding effort.

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Pirate Praveen Sun 7 Feb 2016

We are pretty low on server load now, possibly because of recent issues with federation. I think we should open up registrations now as we have a better pitch for crowd funding. I also have sysstat installed for monitoring system load.

This time we should create a fund for podmins who spend more than 2 hours (suggest different criteria).

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Pirate Praveen started a proposal Sun 7 Feb 2016

open registrations Closed Wed 10 Feb 2016

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Tue 25 Apr 2017

We can open registrations

We are low on server load and its a good time to open up registrations.

Results
Agree - 3
Abstain - 3
Disagree - 3
Block - 3
3 people have voted (7%)
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Pirate Praveen
Agree
Sun 7 Feb 2016

It will enhance our prospects for the crowd funding

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V
Agree
Sun 7 Feb 2016

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Fayad Fami
Agree
Tue 9 Feb 2016

opening for public even if its for a short time will be good for poddery.

MKT

Manu Krishnan T V Sun 7 Feb 2016

Hope someone keep an eye on the observium to monitor load when new users join.

We are very low on processor load. If the trend continues, we could reduce the cores and get some more time to run the server.

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Pirate Praveen Sun 7 Feb 2016

@manukrishnantv high load was the reason we closed new registrations, so now we are in a good condition, we can open up and get more people use our pod. We could temporarily reduce cores, but we should be prepared to keep at least this much spec and ideally ready to grow bit more as effort to maintain a pod is more or less same. But yes, we should not grow huge like joindiaspora and become unmanageable. Also we can open up xmpp conferences as well on poddery.

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Pirate Praveen Wed 10 Feb 2016

Registration opened. We still got to fix podupti.me

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Pirate Praveen Wed 10 Feb 2016

We should start weekly scheduled meeting to build the campaign. It is good time to bring more people to the team.

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Pirate Praveen Wed 10 Feb 2016

@jishnu can you help us with the video this time around too? @abhijtihb can you join the video team?

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Anish Sheela Mon 29 Feb 2016

@fayadfami Can you summarize the points of yesterday's discussions? You had the paper.

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Fayad Fami Thu 3 Mar 2016

Minutes of fossmeet '16 is here.

We are working on a campaign video to show poddery team speaking about the history, progress, achievements and challenges ahead. @praveenarimbrathod and myself we have started working on it; recorded a small part of it.

Idea is to get each one of us in poddery team to share their thoughts on the following questions. Use your webcam or digicam to record this and share in a single location. We can edit and bring it up as a single video of 5 to 10 minutes.

1. Little about what Poddery is and its past. A brief history of events.

2. Events since last funding. What poddery has achieved (better hosting, more users, better location etc).

3. Challenges poddery is facing (continue hosting with current features, rise of active users).

4. Why we think you should help.

I would suggest the team to send their videos within next 2 days. Remember not to exceed 5 minutes. Just to make it as simple and elegant as possible.

I would suggest recording a user perspective too - @arjun can you speak about how Diaspora has influenced you ?

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[deactivated account] Thu 3 Mar 2016

I can but won't be able to send the video.
Connection is horrible here

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Pirate Praveen Tue 8 Mar 2016

I have started the campaign draft at https://www.indiegogo.com/campaigns/keep-poddery-com-live-round-2/edit (let me know if you want to help with indiegogo campaign and I'll add you to the team)

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Pirate Praveen Thu 10 Mar 2016

We just have 25 days, 13 hours left in our account. @manukrishnantv did we receive the remaining amount from KnightSwarm yet? Can you ask them to credit it so we can refill gandi.net.

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Manu Krishnan T V Thu 10 Mar 2016

@praveenarimbrathod I am very much occupied these days. Have talked with @anisha over phone regarding that. I have initiated a ticket sometime back and they said they can't buy Gandi credits for us, but transfer the amount to an alternate paypal account.

Someone needs to follow up on that. Meanwhile, if I remember correctly, we have some funds from the last crowdfunding campain with SMC too.

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Anish Sheela Mon 14 Mar 2016

Check this: https://blog.scaleway.com/2016/03/08/c2-insanely-affordable-x64-servers/

Its a French company. I am currently running my personal servers with them. Really reliable.

@praveenarimbrathod @manukrishnantv @fayadfami

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Pirate Praveen Mon 14 Mar 2016

@anisha this seems 1/5th of gandi.net offer after 40% discount!! They are out of stock and needs an invite. Can you get a server if you have an account already?

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Anish Sheela Thu 17 Mar 2016

I already have account and ability to spawn servers.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 14 Mar 2016

@manukrishnantv I have opened a ticket with KnightSwarm to credit it to @sruthi 's paypal account. We already used the amount left with SMC for last purchase with gandi.net

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Pirate Praveen Mon 14 Mar 2016

How about an online meet up to work on the indiegogo campaign? I suggest tomorrow night 9pm. Scaleway hosting won't start before April. I have registered with them.

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Manu Krishnan T V Mon 14 Mar 2016

Scaleway uses SoC (Server on Chip), which is new. There is no benchmark on performance yet. Being a busy pod with a heavy database, we need to test whether the CPU can handle the load, before making a decision.

Also, network being capped at 200Mbps, we need to do a speed test too. Presently at Gandi and earlier with Knightswarm, we were on a shared gigabit port.

There are more options coming in and the cost will go down in the future for sure.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 14 Mar 2016

@manukrishnantv They already credited to Joe Schraube's account. I have contacted him to buy us gandi.net credits.

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Pirate Praveen Fri 18 Mar 2016

@anisha can you spawn x86-64 machines? I think we should try 8GB plan.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 19 Mar 2016

We have only 16 days 22 hours left in our account. I have contacted Joe Schraube about the refund but yet to get a response. Can someone extend it for a month so we can do the crowd funding in peace? I paid last time, any volunteers to advance this time? @anisha @manukrishnantv @fayadfami

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Pirate Praveen Sat 19 Mar 2016

@anisha shared access to cloud.scaleway.com and I created test.poddery.com. It is up and running with a live diaspora instance (diaspora-installer package in action, pod up and running withing minutes)! Please test and report how it is compared to poddery.com If you want to get inside the server and look, contact me or anish with your ssh keys.

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Pirate Praveen started a proposal Mon 21 Mar 2016

Switch to scaleway.com hosting Closed Thu 24 Mar 2016

Since we have backup available, a small down time should be enough.

  1. Move to 4 core 8 gb server and see for a few days
  2. If we feel its not performing, move to 8 core 16 gb server
  3. Switch back to gandi.net as last resort.

Results
Agree - 3
Abstain - 3
Disagree - 3
Block - 3
3 people have voted (7%)
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Pirate Praveen
Agree
Mon 21 Mar 2016

It reduces cost to a large extend, but we have to test performance.

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Anish Sheela
Agree
Wed 23 Mar 2016

Yes. Its perfect.

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Anish Sheela
Agree
Wed 23 Mar 2016

Yes. Its perfect. I am using it for around an year and it works really well. We can move to it after benchmarks.

BC

Balasankar C
Agree
Thu 24 Mar 2016

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Pirate Praveen Tue 22 Mar 2016

I did a small basic performance test (not perfect) with @mintojoseph and these are the readings

test.poddery.com (Scaleway) Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU  C2550  @ 2.40GHz (4 core)

1. Writing on the encrypted partition

dd if=/dev/zero of=testminto348 bs=1024K count=50
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0870859 s, 602 MB/s

2. Reading from the encrypted partition
dd if=testminto348 of=/dev/null 
102400+0 records in
102400+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0768041 s, 683 MB/s

3. cpu test

 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024K count=1000
1000+0 records in
1000+0 records out
1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.191027 s, 5.5 GB/s

poddery.com (Gandi) Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v2 @ 2.60GHz (6 core)

1. Writing on the encrypted partition

dd if=/dev/zero of=testminto348 bs=1024K count=50
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0571185 s, 918 MB/s

2. Reading from the encrypted partition

dd if=testminto348 of=/dev/null
102400+0 records in
102400+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0803882 s, 652 MB/s

3. cpu test

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024K count=1000
1000+0 records in
1000+0 records out
1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.0767364 s, 13.7 GB/s
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Pirate Praveen Wed 23 Mar 2016

@manukrishnantv I have found a Geekbench result for this server spec http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/5704243

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Pirate Praveen Wed 23 Mar 2016

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Pirate Praveen Sat 26 Mar 2016

I have created a tracker for server migration https://git.fosscommunity.in/community/poddery.com/issues/2 @manukrishnantv @fayadfami @balasankarchelamat @anisha

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Pirate Praveen Mon 28 Mar 2016

poddery.com is now running on scaleway C2S machine. @balasankarchelamat @fayadfami @manukrishnantv @anisha please test and see everything is fine. Looks like web chat is not working. Can some one check? Gotta sleep now.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 28 Mar 2016

gandi.net server is shutdown and credit usage is dwon from 1210/h to 190/h (for disk and ip). I will remove the remaining resources after 2 or 3 days.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 28 Mar 2016

@anisha can you come up with a revised estimate for 2 years cost of hosting?

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Jakob Wed 15 Jun 2016

For the Indiegogo campaign I can make the "Facebook Share Image", and maybe design a Poddery logo if you like. I can make some mock-ups so you can decide which one you prefer...

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Pirate Praveen Wed 15 Jun 2016

@jakobnorregard yes, that would be great. Go ahead and share them here/on diaspora.

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Jakob Fri 17 Jun 2016

I have taken some hour to make 6 suggestions. This is only rough drawings, so considering the idea instead of the aesthetics is preferable. You can look at it first and then maybe we could put it up on Diaspora and let people vote or something. It would be a way of creating some attention. Please ask if you have any questions.

My favourite is no. 1 with the Zulu ceramic beer-jar as it is most grassrootish.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 4 Jul 2016

@jakobnorregard I like 1 and 3.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 4 Jul 2016

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Fayad Fami Mon 4 Jul 2016

The indiegogo url gives an invalid page saying project is unavailable or could be moved.

Edit. works now.

DU

[deactivated account] Fri 16 Sep 2016

Received 534.44 USD (34,899.95 INR) from indiegogo.com

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Pirate Praveen started a proposal Wed 14 Dec 2016

Chose option 1 as poddery logo Closed Wed 21 Dec 2016

Results
Agree - 4
Abstain - 4
Disagree - 4
Block - 4
4 people have voted (9%)
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Pirate Praveen
Agree
Wed 14 Dec 2016

I liked it too

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Julius
Agree
Wed 14 Dec 2016

Homey, comfortable.

MJ

Minto Joseph
Agree
Wed 14 Dec 2016

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Jakob
Agree
Thu 15 Dec 2016

Yea, I like that best too.