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crowd funding time (again)

Pirate Praveen
Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 513

Folks, its time we start crowd funding campaign so we can continue running poddery.com for the next year and forward. Since myself, Manu and Fayad has been taking care of the technical tasks, I would really like someone else to lead the crowd funding effort.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen February 7th, 2016 06:09

We are pretty low on server load now, possibly because of recent issues with federation. I think we should open up registrations now as we have a better pitch for crowd funding. I also have sysstat installed for monitoring system load.

This time we should create a fund for podmins who spend more than 2 hours (suggest different criteria).

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen started a proposal February 7th, 2016 06:10

open registrations Closed 11:07am - Wednesday 10 Feb 2016

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen April 25th, 2017 05:23

We can open registrations

We are low on server load and its a good time to open up registrations.

Results
Agree - 3
Abstain - 3
Disagree - 3
Block - 3
-35 people have voted (-1200%)
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen
Agree
February 7th, 2016 06:10

It will enhance our prospects for the crowd funding

Manu Krishnan T V

Manu Krishnan T V
Agree
February 7th, 2016 10:43

Manu Krishnan T V

Manu Krishnan T V February 7th, 2016 10:46

Hope someone keep an eye on the observium to monitor load when new users join.

We are very low on processor load. If the trend continues, we could reduce the cores and get some more time to run the server.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen February 7th, 2016 12:32

@manukrishnantv high load was the reason we closed new registrations, so now we are in a good condition, we can open up and get more people use our pod. We could temporarily reduce cores, but we should be prepared to keep at least this much spec and ideally ready to grow bit more as effort to maintain a pod is more or less same. But yes, we should not grow huge like joindiaspora and become unmanageable. Also we can open up xmpp conferences as well on poddery.

Fayad Fami

Fayad Fami
Agree
February 9th, 2016 10:16

opening for public even if its for a short time will be good for poddery.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen February 10th, 2016 06:43

Registration opened. We still got to fix podupti.me

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen February 10th, 2016 07:33

We should start weekly scheduled meeting to build the campaign. It is good time to bring more people to the team.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen February 10th, 2016 08:06

@jishnu can you help us with the video this time around too? @abhijtihb can you join the video team?

Anish Sheela

Anish Sheela February 29th, 2016 07:16

@fayadfami Can you summarize the points of yesterday's discussions? You had the paper.

Fayad Fami

Fayad Fami March 3rd, 2016 05:40

Minutes of fossmeet '16 is here.

We are working on a campaign video to show poddery team speaking about the history, progress, achievements and challenges ahead. @praveenarimbrathod and myself we have started working on it; recorded a small part of it.

Idea is to get each one of us in poddery team to share their thoughts on the following questions. Use your webcam or digicam to record this and share in a single location. We can edit and bring it up as a single video of 5 to 10 minutes.

1. Little about what Poddery is and its past. A brief history of events.

2. Events since last funding. What poddery has achieved (better hosting, more users, better location etc).

3. Challenges poddery is facing (continue hosting with current features, rise of active users).

4. Why we think you should help.

I would suggest the team to send their videos within next 2 days. Remember not to exceed 5 minutes. Just to make it as simple and elegant as possible.

I would suggest recording a user perspective too - @arjun can you speak about how Diaspora has influenced you ?

DU

[deactivated account] March 3rd, 2016 06:40

I can but won't be able to send the video.
Connection is horrible here

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 8th, 2016 05:24

I have started the campaign draft at https://www.indiegogo.com/campaigns/keep-poddery-com-live-round-2/edit (let me know if you want to help with indiegogo campaign and I'll add you to the team)

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 10th, 2016 15:13

We just have 25 days, 13 hours left in our account. @manukrishnantv did we receive the remaining amount from KnightSwarm yet? Can you ask them to credit it so we can refill gandi.net.

Manu Krishnan T V

Manu Krishnan T V March 10th, 2016 19:52

@praveenarimbrathod I am very much occupied these days. Have talked with @anisha over phone regarding that. I have initiated a ticket sometime back and they said they can't buy Gandi credits for us, but transfer the amount to an alternate paypal account.

Someone needs to follow up on that. Meanwhile, if I remember correctly, we have some funds from the last crowdfunding campain with SMC too.

Anish Sheela

Anish Sheela March 14th, 2016 03:44

Check this: https://blog.scaleway.com/2016/03/08/c2-insanely-affordable-x64-servers/

Its a French company. I am currently running my personal servers with them. Really reliable.

@praveenarimbrathod @manukrishnantv @fayadfami

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 14th, 2016 04:24

@anisha this seems 1/5th of gandi.net offer after 40% discount!! They are out of stock and needs an invite. Can you get a server if you have an account already?

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 14th, 2016 05:36

@manukrishnantv I have opened a ticket with KnightSwarm to credit it to @sruthi 's paypal account. We already used the amount left with SMC for last purchase with gandi.net

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 14th, 2016 05:57

How about an online meet up to work on the indiegogo campaign? I suggest tomorrow night 9pm. Scaleway hosting won't start before April. I have registered with them.

Manu Krishnan T V

Manu Krishnan T V March 14th, 2016 07:23

Scaleway uses SoC (Server on Chip), which is new. There is no benchmark on performance yet. Being a busy pod with a heavy database, we need to test whether the CPU can handle the load, before making a decision.

Also, network being capped at 200Mbps, we need to do a speed test too. Presently at Gandi and earlier with Knightswarm, we were on a shared gigabit port.

There are more options coming in and the cost will go down in the future for sure.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 14th, 2016 14:10

@manukrishnantv They already credited to Joe Schraube's account. I have contacted him to buy us gandi.net credits.

Anish Sheela

Anish Sheela March 17th, 2016 12:36

I already have account and ability to spawn servers.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 18th, 2016 09:03

@anisha can you spawn x86-64 machines? I think we should try 8GB plan.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 19th, 2016 06:10

We have only 16 days 22 hours left in our account. I have contacted Joe Schraube about the refund but yet to get a response. Can someone extend it for a month so we can do the crowd funding in peace? I paid last time, any volunteers to advance this time? @anisha @manukrishnantv @fayadfami

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 19th, 2016 12:20

@anisha shared access to cloud.scaleway.com and I created test.poddery.com. It is up and running with a live diaspora instance (diaspora-installer package in action, pod up and running withing minutes)! Please test and report how it is compared to poddery.com If you want to get inside the server and look, contact me or anish with your ssh keys.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen started a proposal March 21st, 2016 08:30

Switch to scaleway.com hosting Closed 1:07pm - Thursday 24 Mar 2016

Since we have backup available, a small down time should be enough.

  1. Move to 4 core 8 gb server and see for a few days
  2. If we feel its not performing, move to 8 core 16 gb server
  3. Switch back to gandi.net as last resort.

Results
Agree - 3
Abstain - 3
Disagree - 3
Block - 3
-35 people have voted (-1200%)
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen
Agree
March 21st, 2016 08:31

It reduces cost to a large extend, but we have to test performance.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 22nd, 2016 15:25

I did a small basic performance test (not perfect) with @mintojoseph and these are the readings

test.poddery.com (Scaleway) Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU  C2550  @ 2.40GHz (4 core)

1. Writing on the encrypted partition

dd if=/dev/zero of=testminto348 bs=1024K count=50
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0870859 s, 602 MB/s

2. Reading from the encrypted partition
dd if=testminto348 of=/dev/null 
102400+0 records in
102400+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0768041 s, 683 MB/s

3. cpu test

 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024K count=1000
1000+0 records in
1000+0 records out
1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.191027 s, 5.5 GB/s

poddery.com (Gandi) Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v2 @ 2.60GHz (6 core)

1. Writing on the encrypted partition

dd if=/dev/zero of=testminto348 bs=1024K count=50
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0571185 s, 918 MB/s

2. Reading from the encrypted partition

dd if=testminto348 of=/dev/null
102400+0 records in
102400+0 records out
52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 0.0803882 s, 652 MB/s

3. cpu test

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024K count=1000
1000+0 records in
1000+0 records out
1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.0767364 s, 13.7 GB/s
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 23rd, 2016 06:52

@manukrishnantv I have found a Geekbench result for this server spec http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/5704243

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 23rd, 2016 07:17

Anish Sheela

Anish Sheela
Agree
March 23rd, 2016 20:52

Yes. Its perfect.

Anish Sheela

Anish Sheela
Agree
March 23rd, 2016 20:54

Yes. Its perfect. I am using it for around an year and it works really well. We can move to it after benchmarks.

Balasankar C

Balasankar C
Agree
March 24th, 2016 04:00

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 26th, 2016 18:31

I have created a tracker for server migration https://git.fosscommunity.in/community/poddery.com/issues/2 @manukrishnantv @fayadfami @balasankarchelamat @anisha

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 28th, 2016 01:52

poddery.com is now running on scaleway C2S machine. @balasankarchelamat @fayadfami @manukrishnantv @anisha please test and see everything is fine. Looks like web chat is not working. Can some one check? Gotta sleep now.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 28th, 2016 08:09

gandi.net server is shutdown and credit usage is dwon from 1210/h to 190/h (for disk and ip). I will remove the remaining resources after 2 or 3 days.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen March 28th, 2016 08:11

@anisha can you come up with a revised estimate for 2 years cost of hosting?

Jakob

Jakob June 15th, 2016 12:11

For the Indiegogo campaign I can make the "Facebook Share Image", and maybe design a Poddery logo if you like. I can make some mock-ups so you can decide which one you prefer...

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen June 15th, 2016 12:16

@jakobnorregard yes, that would be great. Go ahead and share them here/on diaspora.

Jakob

Jakob June 17th, 2016 18:50

I have taken some hour to make 6 suggestions. This is only rough drawings, so considering the idea instead of the aesthetics is preferable. You can look at it first and then maybe we could put it up on Diaspora and let people vote or something. It would be a way of creating some attention. Please ask if you have any questions.

My favourite is no. 1 with the Zulu ceramic beer-jar as it is most grassrootish.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen July 4th, 2016 07:44

@jakobnorregard I like 1 and 3.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen July 4th, 2016 08:11

Fayad Fami

Fayad Fami July 4th, 2016 08:21

The indiegogo url gives an invalid page saying project is unavailable or could be moved.

Edit. works now.

DU

[deactivated account] September 16th, 2016 13:42

Received 534.44 USD (34,899.95 INR) from indiegogo.com

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen started a proposal December 14th, 2016 15:46

Chose option 1 as poddery logo Closed 9:32pm - Wednesday 21 Dec 2016

Results
Agree - 4
Abstain - 4
Disagree - 4
Block - 4
-33 people have voted (-900%)
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen
Agree
December 14th, 2016 15:46

I liked it too

J

Julius
Agree
December 14th, 2016 15:57

Homey, comfortable.

Minto Joseph

Minto Joseph
Agree
December 14th, 2016 16:30

Jakob

Jakob
Agree
December 15th, 2016 06:59

Yea, I like that best too.