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Wed 29 May 2013 11:42AM

Visibility of public posts (especially by search engine)

F Flaburgan Public Seen by 63

There is actually a interesting discussion on Diaspora* about visibility of public posts. (same topic from different pods)

https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2660269
https://diasp.org/posts/1967379

People was surprised that public means public to the whole Internet and not only "public in Diaspora". After a discussion, they understood that we can't guarantee that a post will not quit the network.

But being easily researchable is a problem, so I think we should add a setting to allow or not search engines to index profile. The profile would be visible if an internet user has the url, but would not be found into Google / Bing / etc.

As the https://joindiaspora.com/robots.txt already disallow /u/ and /people/, I do not understand why we still find profiles on Google...

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Flaburgan Thu 30 May 2013 7:17AM

The real label should be "Public on the Internet", but that's too long =P

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Shmerl Thu 30 May 2013 7:19AM

This might deserve a dedicated discussion, but it should be possible to assign more granular visibility. Combining a list of aspects / contacts and etc.

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Ravenbird Thu 30 May 2013 7:31AM

I think we need 'Everyone' (now public), Diaspora and Server/Pod.

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Flaburgan Thu 30 May 2013 7:49AM

@saschamorr @goob

We cannot propose the possibility of post "inside Diaspora" because we cannot be sure that the post will not leave the network. Why? Because everybody can create a pod, modify the code, and if this pod receives a post, we cannot guarantee that it will not publish it on the Internet. "Public in the pod" is possible, but I do not see a real interest to that.

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 30 May 2013 8:14AM

This discussion has been had many times before :) Internet would really be confusing - no one can post on the whole internet :D

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 30 May 2013 8:18AM

@flaburgan 3 days is way too short for a vote like this, I'd say 2 weeks at least

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goob Thu 30 May 2013 10:35AM

I think the answer to this issue is not to change the label, but to write clear user guides which explain exactly how Diaspora works, such as in this instance what making a post public entails (potential for being indexed by search engines, etc).

This is something I'll try to help with.

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Flaburgan Thu 30 May 2013 1:35PM

@goob maybe we should have a FAQ directly inside Diaspora*. By the way, on diasp.org, when I select "public" visibility, I have an information message "Public post mode on, post will be public internet wide."
As this is not translated, I suppose only diasp.org has it..

EG

Erwan Guyader Thu 30 May 2013 5:44PM

I think that tooltip for Public mode is great ! It should be more visible though as we focus on the textarea when posting and not the very top of the page.

More tooltips would be nice.

Another good way to give people more control about the visibility of their post would be to inform them of the visibility of their previous posts. For the moment we only say "limited" when we should have the aspects in which the post in visible.

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Sat 8 Jun 2013 5:17PM

@goob user guides in diaspora sounds great! I think there should be something like a "help" section where users find information about aspects, visibility/privacy, markdown, ...

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