Should New Zealand be a technocracy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy
And for a fascinating read of pros and cons
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/agenda-21-steady-state-illusion.html
What's wrong with every 'ism
http://www.archive.org/stream/TechnocracyStudyCourseUnabridged/TechnocracyStudyCourse-NewOpened?ui=embed#page/n173/mode/2up
Although published in 1945, this guide is still very relevant, as a primer and reference for meaningful discussion.
And am old favourite the oildrum :)
http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/4808
Here some great minds weigh the philosophy and the science, of technocracy, much discussion, from 2008.
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Firas Hermez Sun 8 Jun 2014 9:20PM
Maybe not a pure Technocracy but a Technology aware, forward thinking country with focus on improving the human condition (on an economical, social and personal levels) by using technology would be a better idea?
I think one of the issues is that Technocracy could be associated with Elitism, one way to work around that is to ensure that we have a highly educated, proactive populace, that in turn could result in a true democracy which could work very well.
Guntram Shatterhand Sun 8 Jun 2014 10:17PM
This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I am not a fan of technocracy, because a technocratic system is ultimately not a democratic one. The idea of government by experts and government by the general populace are fundamentally opposed, because by definition the general populace can't all be experts. Similarly, there are ultimately too many questions that governments have to make that simply aren't receptive to technocratic expertise. Sure, the input of scientists may be decisive when discussing drug legalisation or climate change, but who are the technocratic experts who you call on when considering what's the right level for the minimum wage? Policy analysts? We already have plenty of input from them, and it hasn't resulted in a superior policy.
It's one thing to say technocrats should have input, which they currently do. But ultimately some questions are political questions, and technocratic input cannot be decisive, because there is no 'correct' answer to them - just different ideas about what kind of priorities we want our society to have.
Poll Created Sun 8 Jun 2014 10:48PM
I support a technological democracy, where technology is strongly used and considered to enhance the democratic process Closed Wed 11 Jun 2014 10:09PM
25% of those in the group voted on this, and there was nearly unanimous approval.
Voting for this proposal means that you support the idea of a technological democracy, which would include:
1) increased use of technology to help deliver a democratic government to the public.
2) a stronger presence of technological experts in the actual parliamentary debates, in order to balance the often emotionally driven debates with expertly provided scientific information and facts.
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
---|---|---|---|---|
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Agree | 85.7% | 6 | |
Abstain | 14.3% | 1 | ||
Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
Undecided | 0% | 605 |
7 of 612 people have participated (1%)
Kenneth Kopelson
Sun 8 Jun 2014 10:49PM
Sounds like bringing democracy into the 21st century
pilotfever
Mon 9 Jun 2014 4:35AM
My old favourite the oildrum :)
http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/4808
Here some great minds weigh the philosophy and the science, of technocracy, much discussion, from 2008. When I started looking into this stuff.
Marc Whinery
Mon 9 Jun 2014 10:54PM
We should have more experts, both in Parliament and supporting it.
Rangi Kemara
Tue 10 Jun 2014 1:24AM
Yes to the first part of the proposal,
No to the second part.
Firas Hermez
Tue 10 Jun 2014 10:09PM
The use of technology and the scientific method in government could help in enhancing the planning and decision making process, techno-aware politicians should be more likely to propose policies and project which have a high positive impact on NZ.
Ryan Simmiss
Wed 11 Jun 2014 7:15PM
Its the way of the future
Kenneth Kopelson · Sun 8 Jun 2014 7:22PM
I would be in favour of a balance between technical experts and those who focus more on the human side of the equation. Life is not just technical, so basing leadership just on that will certainly lead to a super-efficient, very unhappy world. As is the case with most things in this world, between every set of extreme possibilities there is a best-answer that lies somewhere in the middle.
I imagine a parliament where you have members who are there as counter-balances strictly because of their technological/scientific expertise. They would voice their opinions and recommendations from a technical perspective, while the non-technical members would argue as they do now, from human/philosophical/emotional points of view.