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[published] New website translation + technical stuff

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Josse Public Seen by 324

How do we proceed? On several occasions we agreed upon certainly the major structure. So we can do translations of the big part already. (and maybe the solutions which we are most sure about) If someone could review/give better ideas for the French translation? You can take quite some freedom in the translation and it is also an opportunity to improve on the text. I started with 2 pads: https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitenl and https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitefr

For the practical switch: we could do language by language and then minify the English site as a third step. I don't know if a Maintenance mode is needed for the 3 hours it might take by language. (although we had a lot of kind of maintenance mode lately)

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koen_v Mon 30 Jul 2018

I noticed a few days ago the above question to translate. I've added some translation in the nl-pad (in blue). I hope this helps,

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Josse Sat 4 Aug 2018

Thanks. The original text needed some refinement still,, but the Dutch translation helps to refine.

The most difficult part is still the icons above each text. If I can find a solution for that, it is only a matter of already bringing the Dutch version online.

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koen_v Wed 24 Oct 2018

Dear Josse,

A few hours ago, I checked the website in Dutch. I’ve got the impression that, here and there, the translation could have been better. Sometimes my own translation could be better, sometimes other translations can be better. Is the text on the site still the same as https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitenl ? If so, would it be useful if I read https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitenl again & propose some changements?

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Josse Wed 24 Oct 2018

The easiest thing is to copy paste all text from the website in maybe a new pad and clean authorship colors. Or maybe just the parts you want to correct as it needs to be put back.

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koen_v Thu 25 Oct 2018

ok,

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Josse Tue 21 Aug 2018

I changed the Dutch version to the new story. Still need to remove the crews section (wanted to do step by step) and menus would be different? I still hope for extra sections for the solutions... https://www.piratenpartij.be

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Josse Tue 21 Aug 2018

https://piratenpartij.be probably better.

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Josse Tue 21 Aug 2018

Hm, not piratenpartij.be then

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koen_v Wed 22 Aug 2018

In attachment a file with some minor comments. For some of the small mistakes I mentioned there, maybe it is even me who is responsible for it, it's possible, I'm not sure. See attachment,

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Josse Wed 22 Aug 2018

Bedankt @koenvdp, I will adapt. For the French translation, I am amazed by the quality of deepl translation. I put it in the https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitefr pad and I don't immediately know how to make it better. So, if at least e.g. @hgo you could say whether you are as impressed and how we can continue in the best way, that would be good. I know there were some discussions about how to translate the slogan and I don't mind if the contents is slightly different between Dutch and French.

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HgO Mon 27 Aug 2018

Hey ! Sorry I didn't have time to work on this yet. I quickly read the machine translation, but this would need some work... Especially the titles.

I'll have some free time on Friday, but not before. If someone else wants to work on this, he would be welcome of course.

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Ilja Baert Fri 31 Aug 2018

We had a talk about the new site on the Matrix chat ( https://matrix.to/#/!lrYUTVbAgkVcicgCiA:matrix.org ). The whole thing was a bit to inconsistent for me to write a decent report, but here are my current thoughts inspired by what we've talked about there:

For the 'tools' changing to 'wiki' (was brought up as an idea). We also have Loomio and pad (which I would really like in plural btw: 'pads') under there. Maybe in the future we'll have other tools as well. I think 'Tools' is the correct label here.
Get in contact: There already is a 'get in contact' section, although it's implicit. It's the bottom of the site where the social media buttons are. If we can have a Mastodon/Fediverse button, we should really do that! It should point to the ppbe account ( https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/@ppbe ), not the whole instance since this is the behaviour of the other buttons. We can also add a link to the subscribe page for the newsletter. An example of a site where they put the newsletter subscribe at the social media stuff is https://puri.sm/ . We should also add a link to the chatrooms.
There also seemd to be consensus to remove the crew section from the site. But then the question is if we should link it from somewhere. For inspiration I've checked the site from the Dutch pirates ( https://piratenpartij.nl/ ). They have an 'about us' tab in the menu. One of the submenus there is 'regional'. This could be an option to add, but it takes work since we should also have a decent 'about us' page (I'd prefer on the wiki). So I guess this one is still an open question for me :p

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Ilja Baert Fri 31 Aug 2018

It seems Loomio broke the mastodon link (Loomio can't handle the @ in the name). Copy-pasting the text works.
And thx to Mastodon we also have RSS and ATOM btw :p
https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/@ppbe.rss
https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/@ppbe.atom

(I'm assuming thses links will be broken as well, so just copy-paste the txt ;) )

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Josse Fri 31 Aug 2018

I would add (wiki) to the menu item if it goes to the wiki, so people don't get disoriented e.g. crew list (wiki) under Tools. The whole home page is an About us page. And we can remove the Crews section, but I am waiting a bit for the French translation, so we can update the English part as well, which we could limit to only show Nederlands and français buttons.

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Josse Fri 31 Aug 2018

The contact thing below is difficult to find in comparison to the menus above.

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Josse Sat 22 Sep 2018

I changed the website to have the same in French as we had in Dutch and to "disable" the English site. Things we might still check:
- Change menuitems to have a link to wiki crews as the crews section disappeared (maybe as described above)
- I wonder if something can be changed to Google that even if you type piratenpartij leads to www.pirateparty.be instead.

Thanks @vanecx and @hgo

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HgO Wed 3 Oct 2018

I think @vanecx said it elsewhere, but there was still some comments pending on the pad : https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/sitefr

I'll check what you published, but for me the translation was not finished :/

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HgO Wed 3 Oct 2018

I'm putting this here, although it's a bit off-topic :

I propose to add a link on the menu to this page : https://fr.pirateparty.be/category/articles/ It contains all the published articles.

Je propose de rajouter un lien vers cette page dans le menu du site web : https://fr.pirateparty.be/category/articles/ Cela regroupe tous les articles publiés.

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HgO Thu 4 Oct 2018

It's done :)

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Ilja Baert Mon 15 Oct 2018

I noticed on https://nl.pirateparty.be/contribute that we give a very boring example email. What's even worse is that the example email is a gmail account :astonished:
Now https://fr.pirateparty.be/contribute/ has a very cool edouard.snowden at nsa.gov :sunglasses:
Since we need an example mail there anyhow, I was thinking that we could use the opportunity to give people an alternative to GAFAM and do something like sam.sepiol at protonmail.com, or if we don't want that for whatever reason, use the same as the FR site.

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Renaud Van Eeckhout Mon 15 Oct 2018

Go for it ^

Actually, the french version was changed quite a while ago (on a "contribute to this open-source project" model) because it was a bit too much "come join the pirates"/"come pay us!". Apparently nobody translated it into Flemish.

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Josse Wed 17 Oct 2018

Do you have access @iljabaert ?

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Ilja Baert Wed 17 Oct 2018

No. I was always scared to break something so I didn't want it :laughing: But I was planning to ask access at the next lab, 'cause I really should start to learn to work with it a bit so I could help out a bit more (for example in cases like this). Seems like a good 'first issue' as well :slight_smile: