Loomio
April 13th, 2019 14:44

Mention other lists as alternatives to PPBE

Ilja Baert
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As pirates we have certain ideas on what's going wrong in our society. Luckily we're not the only ones who think like that and more and more we see other groups forming around similar ideas and conclusions. Some of these even attend in the elections. I'd like to give people alternatives to the PPBE they can vote for. This can be because maybe they feel closer related to those other lists, or because they can't vote for PPBE for a specific election.
What are your thoughts on this? What lists would you recommend? Which would you not recommend or warn people for?
Possibilities I already see:
https://www.agora.brussels => Brussels
https://www.voltbelgie.org/ => EU
https://diem25.be/ => EU
@josse I think you also had one, but I can't find it any more :/

I think it's something we should do anyhow, so let's discuss who, who not and why!

Ilja Baert

Ilja Baert April 13th, 2019 14:47

I already changed the page on the website https://nl.pirateparty.be/help-ons-met-de-deelname-aan-de-verkiezingen/ to mention the fact that there are alternatives, but kept it general. (Feel free to comment on that as well, especially if you see spelling-errors :grin: )

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Josse April 13th, 2019 16:27

Not sure if Volt or Diem25 got enough signatures. For the other provinces however: I had contact with someone from the PRO lists and although they are marketing-wise better than us, it stays a collection of people from citizen lists from the communal elections and I think they merit our support (bottom-up thinking, citizens have a say between elections, ...). They will have lists in Vlaams-Brabant and Limburg. I suspect the referendumpartij is oost-vlaanderen and Limburg. So, every province in Flanders has an alternative.

Ilja Baert

Ilja Baert April 25th, 2019 15:49

@landermeeusen gave me the link to all the lists in Belgium (and who's on them) per election per district[1]. I linked to it from our website[2].
This has the advantage of
1. Giving the information about our own lists (transparancy)
2. Not focussing too much on the people (ideas over people)
3. It gives more info on what other lists they can vote for (transparency, empowerment)

[1] https://verkiezingen.fgov.be/algemeen/kandidatenlijsten-en-stembiljetten
[2] https://nl.pirateparty.be/help-ons-met-de-deelname-aan-de-verkiezingen/

Lander Meeusen

Lander Meeusen April 26th, 2019 13:44

Looks good. Over here the lists for Flemish elections are also supposed to appear, but I don't see them yet.
https://vlaanderenkiest.be/

Because the department of Justice made a mistake, the Flemish pirate-list in Antwerp wasn't on the website at first. That error has been corrected now. But the Standaard, still doesn't include our list on it's website: http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20190416_04333865 I already tried contacting several editors and journalists.