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CC 4 Attribution License - Can this be used with CB app?

LM Liam Murphy Public Seen by 29

Attached is a PDF document with 3 comparative licenses and some preparatory notes on how #culturebanked® licenses may (or may not) differ. Once in draft mode, an open Googledocs page can be used to draft the working CultureBanks® licenses which will not differ from existing licenses unless absolutely necessary. The purpose of this thread is to discuss and distinguish what changes, if any, are needed in collaboration with lawyers, academics, license users and would be cultural commoners.... Please feel free to share this link to any interested people.

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Liam Murphy Sun 21 Oct 2018 6:37AM

The reason I shared this link - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tYNMLkKpeSbPuPhusqw6LyUCIy08KeZFmv2KrylOPS4/edit - is that this team have taken on updating PPL to make it 'executable'. Their project actually converges with much of what I've been proposing for 'CultureBanking'. If you scan my original thesis, you'll see the ideas for 'content collectives', transaction taxes for 'wealth funds' or UBI and the income distribution for social objectives via blockchain etc are all there. The only divergence I can see for now under PPL is in this statement: "Like the free software movement this licence does not allow special rights for an original author, but insists on the right for all to use and reuse a common good". That doesn't work for many artists. They don't create false scarcity, they often create limited or entirely 'rivalrous' goods. We can't expect all artists to join coops - tho many do - or vet every potential sale, turning 90% away on moral grounds. They create original works and they need to get paid. But they can put some of their work - or a percentage of their works - to work for the commons. 'Enforcing PPL' would be pointless (hence the project to update it) without building an operating system for that type of license . This project is to create shared wealth. What's still not clear about PPL is whether an individual artist could use it : You may exercise the rights granted in Section 3 for commercial purposes only if: they, individually, count as:
i. a worker-owned business or worker-owned collective; (where)
ii. all financial gain, surplus, profits and benefits produced by the business or collective (is) distributed among the worker-owners...?

Are sole traders 'worker owned'? - The problem seems to lie in the word 'all'.. This is what needs updating.. If 'All' profits go back to 'the collective', this points to an absolute monolpoly or 'single registry' of rights - since 'all' work is 'open'... That isn't going to happen. We need something for individuals and something for the commons. That requires a transitional license and a recognition of 'mixed goods'. I'm for reforming and updating PPL - as well as 'enforcing' it. To do that, you need big partners onside.. I'm doing what I can there, but it's political - as you know. There appears to be growing will in local authorities to 'build commons' - looking at the various procurement sites.. Enforcing PPL would be a great start. All anyone can do is circulate the licences and advocate their use... If people want to join forces and do this via culturebanking, I'm very keen, notwithstanding that one reservation... but your 'team', for now, looks like RyHope Lab...

MB

Michel Bauwens Mon 22 Oct 2018 9:48AM

the ppl is too restrictive in its language; but various copyfair attempts; like the coopify in france; have worked on removing this

I recommend talking to 'the' expert; lionel maurel

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Liam Murphy Mon 22 Oct 2018 12:59PM

Thanks Michel-

I have sent him a few emails, but had no response - night it be worth double checking his address?

Liam

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Liam Murphy Thu 31 Jan 2019 9:15AM

http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Coopify - this seems to be redundant?..

SG

Simon Grant Thu 31 Jan 2019 11:04AM

Thanks, Liam, they certainly seem to have disappeared. There is a questions (for @michelbauwens1 ?) about what to do with the wiki entry in these cases. The information is of historical interest, so I doubt we would want to delete it, but it would probably be better if this were contextualised as a (failed?) experiment, with dates. Do you know of any source of information about its demise?

LM

Liam Murphy Fri 8 Feb 2019 1:22AM

Hi Simon - I did search but couldn't find anything....

SG

Simon Grant Fri 8 Feb 2019 5:17AM

Thanks for searching. Would you say the article needs any changes? I've changed "is" to "was'

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Liam Murphy Fri 8 Feb 2019 2:29PM

I've asked again - at latest source found - email sent to community-wealth.org: HI

I read this article below and have been asked to help update the Wiki entry on this development for the P2P Foundation. I wonder if you have any links to ‘coopify’ now or know anything of its presumed demise? We would be extremely grateful for any information:

https://staging.community-wealth.org/content/coopify-new-platform-bringing-broad-based-ownership-your-smartphone

Thanks in advance and
All best, Liam Murphy.

LM

Liam Murphy Fri 8 Feb 2019 1:21AM

See this related licensing development: https://github.com/holochain/cryptographic-autonomy-license

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Liam Murphy Tue 12 Feb 2019 8:27AM

and - recommended as a best base for 'open and commercial' use: http://contributivecommons.org/licence-contributive-commons-by-co-sa-1-complete/

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