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Wed 3 Dec 2014

Diaspora* at FOSDEM 2016

LM
Lukas Matt Public Seen by 774

FOSDEM is a free event in Brussels that offers open source communities a place to meet, share ideas and collaborate.
No registration necessary (more information).

Diaspora* will have a stand also this year.

This topic is about some organization and/or to inform other
Diaspora-enthusiasts. Maybe some more like to join the event!

DU

[deactivated account] Wed 3 Dec 2014

Really great! I can't come, since I live too far away from Brussels, but good luck with that!

LM

Lukas Matt Wed 3 Dec 2014

I am ready to donate a wingflag if we have a stand. But then I need some help with the design ;)

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Sean Tilley Wed 3 Dec 2014

It would be super cool to have a booth at FOSDEM. Take lots of pictures if you go!

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 4 Dec 2014

Definitely coming if we get the stand, most likely coming if we don't anyway :)

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Fri 5 Dec 2014

I'll also try to be there.

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 8 Dec 2014

Do we want to stay together? Same hotel/hostel?

Either way we should order something now. Otherwise we have to walk a lot ;-)

@flaburgan you told me that it isn't your first time. Any recommendation on finding a quarter that could suit us?

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Flaburgan Mon 8 Dec 2014

@lukasmatt I was there with mozilla, so they paid me the hotel room in the center of Bruxelles. Definitely not a reasonable price so I would not propose to go there.

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 8 Dec 2014

If it was the center.. How long did it take to travel to the FOSDEM area?

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Flaburgan Mon 8 Dec 2014

I'll be there for sure btw. I'll be at the mozilla hotel if my talk is accepted, else I can be wherever I want :)

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Flaburgan Mon 8 Dec 2014

@lukasmatt not that long with the bus, ~30 min.

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Augier Mon 8 Dec 2014

I might be present too if I can afford...

PC

Pablo Cúbico Thu 11 Dec 2014

Hey guys! I'm presenting a talk today for the "open source design" dev room. It will be awesome to meet you there if it's accepted (despite the deadline for CFP has passed). One of the organizers contacted me and Steffan about it.

I would love if any of you are interested in joining me for the talk (specially french speakers! I will do it in english anyway).

I'll send a link for the slides in the next hour or so.
But please don't share it! It's a work in progress.

If you have any flyer idea or need any help, ask me! Let's make it right and do something cool.

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Flaburgan Thu 11 Dec 2014

Cool to see you there :D I think the FOSDEM would be an ideal time to organize an event like a hackaton dedicated only to diaspora* :)

PC

Pablo Cúbico Thu 11 Dec 2014

Here are the slides. The deadline is over (it was extended until Dec 8th), but I've been too busy, I hope they can still consider my application, I've just e-mailed the people involved.

Here are the slides, 90% finished, I want to add some images and maybe a few more slides.

Please don't share!!!

http://vispress.com/fosdem2015

Press "S" to see the presentation's notes, much more context there.

Any suggestions are welcome, and any company on the talk would be awesome, these are some very personal views, but I guess most of you will relate.

I also consider this talk to be a good "cheatsheet" for open source UX which we can use for Diaspora.

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 11 Dec 2014

@hola Very interesting and creative, Pablo! Good luck with the presentation! (fingers crossed)

PC

Pablo Cúbico Thu 11 Dec 2014

Fingers crossed! Thanks! :D

PC

Pablo Cúbico Thu 11 Dec 2014

Well, seems that the talk is in for consideration! Now the committee has to vote.

:¬o

Fingers crossed.

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 15 Dec 2014

@flaburgan any info from FOSDEM about our application? :)

PC

Pablo Cúbico Mon 15 Dec 2014

Hey guys! My talk is approved! \o/

Now I have to raise the money to get there... :S

I have some savings, was hoping to buy a car next year, but that can wait if I don't get any sponsorship.

Anyway, looks like I'm going to be there, it would be awesome to meet you guys. I'm also planning on staying for the week, so if you guys are around, maybe we could do some "Diaspora work week" in person.

And if any of you is interested in helping me out with the talk, or even pick me out at the airport (?), that would be greatly appreciated, since I'll be arriving on Feb 1st, 10 AM, and the talk is at 1 PM.

I'm also looking for a coworking space, or a place with good internet in case I have to work on any of those days.

So excited! @.@

PC

Pablo Cúbico Mon 15 Dec 2014

@zauberstuhl do you have the specs for the wingflag?

Believe in "Law of attraction": if we get the design for the wingflag, we'll definitely get the stand. :P

PC

Pablo Cúbico Mon 15 Dec 2014

@zauberstuhl by specs I mean sizes, etc., so I can replicate it on Inkscape.

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 15 Dec 2014

@hola I am currently in vacation I'll send you the details when I am back :) I really appreciate it if you help me out!

PC

Pablo Cúbico Wed 17 Dec 2014

@zauberstuhl awesome! Enjoy your vacation!

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Flaburgan Wed 17 Dec 2014

Good news, we get the table babies!

PC

Pablo Cúbico Thu 18 Dec 2014

Awesome!!! I'll be speaking at FOSDEM on Feb 1st, time is 13:35 but I'll be arriving at 11:15 so I asked them to reschedule for a little later.

I'll be staying at Brussels on Feb 2nd too, I'd like to visit Paris on the 3rd, and then I'll be in Berlin until Feb 18th.

Who is in for an after-FOSDEM Diasporian meeting on Brussels for Feb 2nd?

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 18 Dec 2014

Super awesome!

So, who is coming to "work" at the diaspora* stand? I'm available for the whole time. @flaburgan is engaged with Mozilla, right? @zauberstuhl is coming? @augier ? @steffenvanbergerem ? Anyone else?

Any ideas on hotels/etc? I'll book flights now that the table was confirmed prob tomorrow, arrival maybe on the saturday, leave probably monday evening. The only hotel mentioned by FOSDEM is booked full: https://fosdem.org/2015/practical/accommodation/ .. I'm ok with hostel etc, though at this age I do appreciate hotel too :D Would be fun to hook up with some other d* people.

Other things:

  • We need some visual stuff for the table - @zauberstuhl suggested a wingflag?
  • We should IMHO print flyers and stickers. Any places of recommendation? Can handle that if someone does the poster design.
  • T-Shirts for the participants? :)

Also, we do have some money available via the FSSN - we should have a vote on whether we will try to use that for the winflag, stickers, posters, etc.

Nice to meet some of you IRL! :D

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Augier Thu 18 Dec 2014

I think I'm comming, yes, at least I'll try. I'll make it in train and about the hotel, I'l try to find a youth hostel (auberge de jeunesse in french) as I don't have lots of money. I won't stay any longer than the week-end though, as I resume the courses on feb so I can't take holidays.

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Fri 19 Dec 2014

I have lectures on monday and a job at the university so I can only stay there for the weekend. I wasn't able to plan it yet but I also think that I will come and try to find a youth hostel or something similar.

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Flaburgan Fri 19 Dec 2014

Same for me: I'll be there but I'll probably go back on sunday evening.

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goob Fri 19 Dec 2014

I can ask a friend of mine who lives in Brussels about hotels, if that would help.

PC

Pablo Cúbico Sun 21 Dec 2014

Awesome! I'll arrive on Sunday noon and my talk is at 3:30 PM, so I'll be able to help at the booth only for a few hours :P.

+1 for the stickers, it's the cheapest option with the greatest reach.

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Augier Sun 21 Dec 2014

I might attend FosDem with a friend so if I find a third Parisian that want to come, I'll come by car, it will be cheaper.

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 22 Dec 2014

@hola https://sechat.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_e484d7153739cc279033.jpg
I guess 2.2 meters height is enough, no?

I am also "only" available on the weekend,
but I am pretty sure that is still enough time to have some chatting :)

FYI: I am driving with the car from Karlsruhe to Brussels.
So if someone is on my route I can pick him up!

LM

Lukas Matt started a proposal Mon 22 Dec 2014

Should we use Diaspora money for FOSDEM advertising? Closed Thu 25 Dec 2014

We do have some money available via the FSSN - we should have a vote on whether we will try to use that for the winflag, stickers, posters, etc.

We should also think about how much we'd like to spend!

Results
Agree - 9
Abstain - 9
Disagree - 9
Block - 9
9 people have voted (3%)
LM

Lukas Matt
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

Spending money for advertising is probably one of the best things we can do with the money.

How much? I have no clue how big "our" money bag is. Even then we should be moderate.
As I already said I am ready to donate the beachflag/wingflag.

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 22 Dec 2014

@zauberstuhl awesome! How much is the winflag?

Just an addition to the proposal - we can decide to request support from the FSSN but whether or not they will help is case by case. I'm thinking paying for material for an open source conference will have a good possibility of passing.

JR

Jason Robinson
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

LM

Lukas Matt
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

Spending money for advertising is probably one of the best things we can do with the money.

How much? I have no clue how big "our" money bag is. Even then we should be moderate.
As I already said I am ready to donate the beachflag/wingflag.

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 22 Dec 2014

@jasonrobinson normally you have to calculate ~100 euros, but I have someone who could give it to me cheaper.. lets see.

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Flaburgan Mon 22 Dec 2014

@zauberstuhl we have something than ~700$ USD.

To use it in bug bounties is nice too, but promotion is great yeah.

JB

Joe Bew Mon 22 Dec 2014

I'll be at FOSDEM too :D Will be a pleasure to meet you all there!

JB

Joe Bew
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

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Amy
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

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Dennis Schubert Mon 22 Dec 2014

@flaburgan

we have something than ~700$ USD.

We don't have a single penny unless we've figured out how to properly access the money. Please don't act like we do. ;)

FL

Frode Lindeijer
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 22 Dec 2014

ull "">

Not quite correct Dennis. We DO have money available, we just don't have full control on where we can use it ;)

But since we haven't asked yet, we don't know how easy or hard releasing the funds is.

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 22 Dec 2014

ull "">

Not quite correct Dennis. We DO have money available, we just don't have full control on where we can use it ;)

But since we haven't asked yet, we don't know how easy or hard releasing the funds is.

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goob Mon 22 Dec 2014

I've asked my man in Brussels, apologies for the delay. I'll let you know if he has any recommendations.

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Camil
Agree
Mon 22 Dec 2014

Great idea, things are finally moving

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MrmappyINOF
Agree
Tue 23 Dec 2014

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 23 Dec 2014

I'm asking around for some offers on stickers and brochures.

What would be a good amount? 1000 stickers and brochures? I have no idea how many people might pass through the table. But we should not just dump them on the table, but also spread them around to people actively :)

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Flaburgan Tue 23 Dec 2014

@jasonrobinson I'm wondering if business cards wouldn't be better than brochures? Easier to keep, with only the important information on it (url of the official website, one official e-mail and a nice logo on the front, the key points of the project on the back)

TR

trekkie@nomorestars.com
Agree
Wed 24 Dec 2014

PP

Pirate Praveen
Agree
Thu 25 Dec 2014

I think its a good idea to promote diaspora at fosdem

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goob Thu 25 Dec 2014

Oh, I only just saw this vote. Too late, but add a 'yes' vote from me - this is definitely the sort of thing we should be using FSSN-held funds for.

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goob Fri 26 Dec 2014

My Brussels contact has given the following suggestions:

Brussels can be difficult for hotels because of all of the EU and associated events - I would look at these two 'aparthotels' which offer a bit of convenience and can sometimes be cheaper.

Aparthotel Adagio Brussels Centre Monnaie

Citadines Sainte-Catherine Brussels

The first one is right in the centre on a busy and not particularly beautiful road, the second is about 200m from there but on a rather nice square known as the Fish Market.

A possible downside about these is that the ULB is quite distant, I think - I'm not too familiar with the ULB campus but I will have a look and then see if they have anything around there. Depends how much time they want to spend travelling in the morning.

Hope this is helpful. If you need any more advice, let me know and I'll pass on the message. He's also happy to help with recommendations on eating out, bars to go to, etc, if you need them.

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Augier Fri 26 Dec 2014

Thanks for the advice @goob. Unhopfully, It's a bit out of my student's budget :(

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goob Fri 26 Dec 2014

Yeh, I did tell him that some of your are students... sorry I couldn't help you.

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 26 Dec 2014

OK I've been looking for some examples to print stickers.

1) stickit.fi - quality place. Price on quote, but example: 500 stickers 15x10mm, 149€. Colour, cut to shape. I can pick these up to avoid delivery costs.

2) Onlineprinters.com - many configurations, cheap. Example: 500 stickers, 21x10mm, colour, rounded corners (not cut to shape), 100€ + delivery.

3) Diginate.com - seems pricey but prob good quality. Example: 500 stickers (individuals!), 15x10mm, colour, cut to shape, $500 + delivery.

I'd say stickit.fi because it's local from me and I can quickly handle problems with the order and pick them up. IF it happens that the FSSN will NOT accept the order, I'm willing to pay for them :P

About design, opinions? I'd say the logo in helvetica (https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/File:Diaspora-logo.png) with maybe underneath - "open source social network - https://diasporafoundation.org".

Since we are targeting developers here as it's a conference where the majority(?) of participants will be all kinds of open source devs and hackers.

Size of the sticker? 20x10mm max? I'd like cut to shape, it's a nice touch and makes for a much nicer laptop sticker :)

Also, I totally think we should do some t-shirts for those present at the table and also the flyers/cards. Anyone want to design those? A5 maybe or even A6 size?

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 26 Dec 2014

About staying - for me a hostel is fine, would be nice to stay at the same place though as someone else :)

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 26 Dec 2014

Also, is there any reason to stay for Monday? Work looks .... busy for end of jan / start of feb, so unless we can throw up a good hackathon for Monday I'd probably return last flight sunday I can find. It seems most will not be staying for Monday?

PC

Pablo Cúbico Sat 27 Dec 2014

Hey guys! I'd rather use the Roboto logo (https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/File:Diaspora_logo_roboto.svg) and ditch the Helvetica one (and any other) for good. Roboto is slightly more modern than Helvetica, and also, Helvetica is so widely used, it's almost a de facto standard, almost like having no font choice at all.

In any case, for the sake of identity, consistency and integrity, a decision should be made clear about which one is the "real" Diaspora logo.

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Augier Sat 27 Dec 2014

@jasonrobinson : I get back to school on monday so I back home sunday for me. About hostel, I'll try to find a youthness hostel (not sure about translation, auberge de jeunesse in french). I won't be able to afford a hostel.

@goob : thanks for having took a look though ;)

JR

Jason Robinson Sat 27 Dec 2014

@hola yeah roboto is fine too :) I think we decided earlier to "allow" both, but yes, one should really be decided upon as the primary.

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goob Sun 28 Dec 2014

The adoption of Roboto was implicit in the decision to use lower-case in branding, but yeh, we agreed to allow use of Helvetica where Roboto wasn't available or not appropriate.

@jasonrobinson, would UnixStickers be any good for this? As we already have a relationship with them, they might (hopefully) provide us with stickers at cost price, or at least minus the 35% of sale cost they should be providing to Diaspora... Thanks for all your work on this, by the way.

@augier, it's 'youth hostel' in English. :)

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Augier Fri 2 Jan 2015

Ok I find two people to join me on the trip, that's cool I'll go by car.
@goob : Thx :)

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Flaburgan Mon 5 Jan 2015

About the Roboto font, the only thing which bothers me is the place of the *, I find it way to low.

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Flaburgan Mon 5 Jan 2015

About shirts, I can see if I can get some. What are you shirt sizes guys?

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 5 Jan 2015

@flaburgan

About the Roboto font, the only thing which bothers me is the place of the *, I find it way to low.

Me too, but I guess that discussion is separate and already discussed once when it was accepted :P

About shirts, I can see if I can get some. What are you shirt sizes guys?

M for me please, unless it's a skinny fit then L :P

@goob I'll ask UnixStickers today.

How many stickers? Anyone want to post a design that has the "logo" and project URL? If not I'll post one sample tonight or tomorrow.

Anyone want to create the leaflet/business card/flyer design? I can handle the printing.

PC

Pablo Cúbico Mon 5 Jan 2015

Guys, I'll be happy to make a design, for the card or flyers, if you got any previous ones, please do send. Any content ideas for the flyers too.

Just e-mail me at hola [at] pablocubi.co.

Really excited to meet you there! I'll be on Brussels until Feb 3rd, and then on Berlin until Feb 18th, if any of you is on any of those cities, we'll be happy to meet after FOSDEM.

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goob Mon 5 Jan 2015

I guess that discussion is separate and already discussed once when it was accepted :P

I don't think things got discussed at the time Roboto was adopted...

The position of the asterisk doesn't bother me, but there are other things about Roboto I'm not keen on. However, it is the font of choice for Diaspora branding until we've had a proper discussion about whether to change it.

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goob Mon 5 Jan 2015

@hola, it would be wonderful if you'd be happy to design some materials. Thanks a lot. And thanks again to @jasonrobinson for chasing suppliers, and other work.

PS

Pavithran S Fri 9 Jan 2015

I am coming fellas . Its my first time so I will be overwhelmed and it might take me some time before I reach diaspora stall but I would volunteer atleast on sunday afternoon or so.
It would be great to see some promotional materials as discussed above. Great work guys :)

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 11 Jan 2015

Finally booked my flights, damn holiday season, just hadn't got around to it. Arriving on Friday, since hostel is so cheap and flight was same price so thought I'd arrive to be there from the morning.. and have a look at some pubs on Friday of course ;) Anyone else around Friday evening for some beers? Leaving back on Sunday on a 7pm flight.

I'm staying at Hello Hostel in the centre - I know it's not near the conference place, I prefer a more central location ;)

I didn't have time to ask UnixStickers for mass prints, so maybe next time. I'll hopefully get the order to Stickit.fi done tomorrow for the stickers (approx 150mmx40mm "diaspora*" in Roboto, individuals, cut to shape).

For the flyers I've asked a quote for 500, one sided, approx A5/A6 size.

@flaburgan will you be able to get the T-shirts?

@zauberstuhl how is that winflag coming along? :)

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Flaburgan Sun 11 Jan 2015

@jasonrobinson the traditional drink event of friday evening is at the delirium bar. Join us there!

Unfortunately, I won't get the shirts I think, I'm not able to find the name of the company who printed some to me 6 years ago, this is the only cheap place I know...

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 12 Jan 2015

@jasonrobinson I'll book tonight. Maybe I join you on Friday :)

https://sechat.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_af9ea6512828c4a63c06.jpg

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Benoît Majerus Mon 12 Jan 2015

As I'm living in Brussels, I can also help out. And if someone is ready to sleep in an appartment with children, he can also use our couch :)

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 12 Jan 2015

@flaburgan OK, I guess the t-shirts are not really needed. I had an idea that maybe we could have name tag kinda things for each person "working" at the table - just with project logo and person name. Make it easier to be identified. Good idea?

@zauberstuhl awesome <3

@benoitmajerus great!

LM

Lukas Matt Mon 12 Jan 2015

@jasonrobinson I really like the name-tag idea!

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goob Mon 12 Jan 2015

maybe we could have name tag kinda things for each person “working” at the table - just with project logo and person name.

Maybe you could have name tags in the style of D* hovercards...?

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 12 Jan 2015

Maybe you could have name tags in the style of D* hovercards…?

Funny idea :D @hola / anyone for a design? Could print at work, glue to some cardboard and attach to lanyards :P

LM

Lukas Matt Wed 14 Jan 2015

@jasonrobinson I am staying at the same hostel. I'll arrive on Friday .. probably around 5pm.

and still driving with the car http://bit.ly/1sw3awH I can pick up one person!

Cheers

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goob Wed 14 Jan 2015

A bit.ly link redirecting to Google......? aargh!

LM

Lukas Matt Wed 14 Jan 2015

and you clicked on it!

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goob Wed 14 Jan 2015

I know. I'm such an idiot... :P

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Augier Fri 16 Jan 2015

@zauberstuhl : You live in Karlsruhe !?

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Theatre-X Sat 17 Jan 2015

I'm all the way in the States so I couldn't have gone anyway. I might do such an event some time down the road for the Corning Free Software Movement (https://freeculturecorningny.wordpress.com/) after I set up freespora and willow-glass-tree (Corning Inc. has a product called "Willow Glass" hehe). It is just far too early in the movement and I don't want to eat more than I can chew, so to speak.

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 20 Jan 2015

I'm so excited, can't wait! Over 2K beers!

Also, FOSDEM sounds cool too ;)

LM

Lukas Matt Wed 21 Jan 2015

@augier yes :)

@jasonrobinson me too!!! btw we could drive with my car from the hostel to FOSDEM or we could take the bus.. doesn't matter :)

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Augier Wed 21 Jan 2015

@zauberstuhl : Hey ! I had a trip not far from it when I was young ! :p

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 23 Jan 2015

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goob Fri 23 Jan 2015

I guess you're now thinking it's a shame that the F in FOSDEM is for 'free not as in free beer'... ;)

Have a great time, everyone. And thanks to all those who will be representing Diaspora there.

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Augier Fri 23 Jan 2015

Finally, will be there with my future podmin mate \o/

LM

Lukas Matt Fri 23 Jan 2015

why is it still a week :(

KS

Kasper Souren started a proposal Fri 23 Jan 2015

FOSDEM hospitality network meetup Sunday at noon Closed Sat 24 Jan 2015

BeWelcome (and Trustroots) FOSDEM meeting Sunday at noon
http://www.bewelcome.org/activities/1207

Results
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Abstain - 0
Disagree - 0
Block - 0
0 people have voted (0%)
JR

Jason Robinson Sat 24 Jan 2015

@kaspersouren please don't post advertisements as proposals - or advertisements at all. This group is for diaspora related activity, not general FOSDEM related, thanks.

KS

Kasper Souren Sat 24 Jan 2015

Oh sorry, I want aware of this policy (nor that my post is an "advertisement"). Please remove my post.

sent from my mobile phone

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Sun 25 Jan 2015

@jasonrobinson @zauberstuhl I’m also staying at Hello Hostel. Will arrive on Saturday and meet you @ FOSDEM.

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Jason Robinson Sun 25 Jan 2015

Awesome, nice to meet you too @steffenvanbergerem !

I'd like to get a blog post out on the blog maybe today or tomorrow, just saying we'll be at FOSDEM with a table. Can draft, will post here later.

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 25 Jan 2015

Alright, DRAFT here: https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/9

Please don't share it yet... I'll post it later tonight after a few nods in favour or fix it according to comments.