Here is my proposal to create a central (opt-in) hub of information relating to pods in our little social network. Please read the full proposal before judging it ;)
I would like to vote on this as soon as all constructive comments relating to technical specifications is processed. I am prepared to code it and host it (until official servers exist).
Full proposal here: https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/Central_hub
Ps. I created this in the main community group, not a subgroup, since I think this is something that all community members should be allowed to vote on without having to hassle with requesting subgroup rights.
Poll Created Sun 17 Nov 2013 10:55AM
Does the diaspora* network need statistics? Closed Mon 18 Nov 2013 7:48AM
Will do in my own repo
Ignoring all the technical details on how to accomplish this, please consider the following.
Would you want the diaspora* network to gather statistics from opt-in participating pods (with default being not participating in new pod configuration) about the following;
- Name of pod
- URL of pod
- Registrations open / closed
- TOS (when implemented)
- Amount of local users
- Amount of local users active last 6 months
The statistics would be fully open to anyone with full transparency and possibility to opt-out for pods who change their minds.
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14 of 269 people have voted (5%)
Sun 17 Nov 2013 11:10AM
On the anniversary of diaspora* as a community project we did lots of promotion. TechWeekEurope came back with one question - "How many users are there?". We replied that we don't know and can only guess, and not surprisingly they never wrote back.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 11:11AM
I think this is not the correct way to proceed. While I agree there is a need to show statistics to prospective and current users, this is not the way to do it. We must continue to decentralise our network. Not centralise it. Step in the wrong dir.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 11:20AM
since this vote is NOT about whether it is central or distributed type of information gathering I do agree that there is a genral need for gathering this information with opt-in basis to show that diaspora* is alive and growing.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 11:47AM
I don't think statistics are at all important. Pod-local stats are important for the pod admin; since there is no "network admin" in a decentralised network I don't see the need for stats at that level. Email didn't need usage stats either.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 12:36PM
I like that publishing your pod in a list is an action you need to take rather than something you need to turn off.
+1 on anonymous statistics about users and maybe known pods, but those shouldn't be linked to the submitter in any way.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 12:43PM
I think it is important to push forward to a path where everyone has its own pod (1 seed/pod), where nobody should care about others' pod TOS or stats. Also I don't believe that by saying "we have a million users" will bring more awarenes..
Sun 17 Nov 2013 8:52PM
As I noted in my comments above, this would not be useful without 100% participation, and information collected is likely to gradually expand over time.
A federated, decentralized network should avoid dependencies on centralized services.
Sun 17 Nov 2013 9:55PM
Gathering statistics about the diaspora network does not have to be done by the project itself. It can be done by a third party. I think diaspora should focus on building the core of distributed/de-centralized social network.
Mon 18 Nov 2013 6:40AM
IMO, a central hub run by the project in its current volunteer non-profit infrastructure could actually be a good thing, especially if it's only opt-in, doesn't show personal analytics of users, and respects privacy.