Ticket Prices

Oh yes.... If you two can come up with something I would totally support it! What ever "it" is (within limits ;-) ) - but I think this is a great idea for next year.

@daniellewis and I might have to have a cawfee together in the not too distant future... maybe this can also be part of the wider "Gamification of Enspiral" conversation I need to have with @joshuavial on his return...

@strypey if you get in touch directly happy to look at what we could do for you to make this accessible. It is a very tight cost /budgeted model but we are committed to doing what we can. If you can email me directly: [email protected] happy to try and find a way to make this work. Thanks for reaching out!

Kia ora koutou

There are many new terms for me in this thread but it's abundantly clear that this is an awesome initiative. Good on youall.

Isabella

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Isabella Cawthorn

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Strypey, You are right.

I am not going for this and some other reasons.
I am also trying to convince people for collective intelligence online.
Meetings are good for emotional exchange.
Online is more porductive, to my experience.

BTW, did you see recent changes on LikeInMind?
We accepted DMOZ taxonomy for our systematic studies.
Helps us to see what knowledge is available/missing.

Your thoughts?
Dimitri

It looks like you have valuable perspective regarding the relationship of in-person meetings to online interactions, @falcondot . This is close to my personal work in media theory.

I certainly agree that in-person meetings are good for emotional exchange and, in fact, for emotional bonding. There are pros and cons to that. When we bond emotionally with specific persons and groups, we prioritize those relationships in our interactions. Such priorities may or may not add value to a larger community. I think this depends deeply on whether our interactions aim to create (1) inclusive value for a larger community or (2) exclusive value/ privilege for the participants in those interactions. I think that's an ongoing struggle which we all, including OS//OS attendees, face.

You wrote:

Online is more porductive, to my experience.

That's vague, and I think we need to be clear about the deep difference between live telecommunications (especially voice and or video meetings) and our asynchronous transfers of (at least temporarily recorded) data packets and media items. You seem deeply acquainted with systems theory, so I guess you know what I mean here?

To me, live tele-meetings with voice and/or video are much more akin to in-person meetings than they are to our asynchronous online media sharing and discussion formats.

So, I guess you were implying that asynchronous online interactions are more productive than both [in-person meetings and live tele-meetings]. Is that right, or mostly right?

I'd personally agree that whenever we're dealing with complex, long-term goals, we can produce more unified results by using asynchronous interactions than by not using them. I note however that we don't need to choose between live and asynchronous interactions. This ties back to my statement about the aims of interactions, and inclusive vs. exclusive value...

Live interactions are intense opportunities to not only bond emotionally, but to exchange and iterate ideas at a rich bandwidth of both conceptual complexity and interactivity. That's very powerful. I think it's just a question of how we try to relate our meetings to broader contexts and communities.

If a live meeting (such as OS//OS) adds real value to a larger community, I believe that its participants can represent that value in persistent media forms which are meaningfully related (and accessible) to the larger community.

As for ticket prices: I personally wouldn't be able to come (overseas) to OS//OS even if I had free admission. However, I think that ticket scholarships or sponsorships (as @daniellewis suggested) are a great idea.

I think OS//OS is a priceless opportunity for people to meet and network towards more open, accessible and sustainable relationships on all scales of society. I hope everyone has a good time!

Hi Greg

Looks like you're a bit of an expert in what makes groups like communities work (or not)! It'd be good to have a chat with you - I'm doing some work that will need some expertise :-)

Cheers

Isabella

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Isabella Cawthorn

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Hi Isabella, Greg and others,

I am also interested in organising communities, management of
self-organising teams. My project team collects information on
this topic here:

http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/103831055/Self-Organising%20Teams%20Best%20Practices

More links and pages on the topic can be found at the bottom of
the page. Pages are interconnected in a knowledge network. A
"visual taxonomy" mode is also available by clicking the blue
circle at the first line of the page.

Please take a look and suggest resources missing. It would be
great if you could participate in our knowledge network by
contributing your knowledge too.

My attentions is mostly on the LikeInMind FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/LikeInMind/

Please join and tag me if you need more help / info.

Sorry for missing messages in this mailing list.

Thank you beforehand,

Dimitri

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lol this is a total thread fork - I suggest you peeps start a new thread to do with "organising communities and management of
self-organising teams".

That way you will attract others that want to talk about such things rather than ticket prices :)

Strong agreement!