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Tue 19 Sep 2017 10:34AM

Participatory Tools for Democracy: Meet the working group

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Steve Huckle Wed 4 Oct 2017 8:05AM

I would love to go - unfortunately, it clashes with my children's half-term holidays. Do you know if it's possible to participate remotely, somehow?

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Oliver Kalleinen Wed 4 Oct 2017 9:02AM

I was wondering if anyone is actually taking part to the Participatory Tools work-group in Madrid, so far I only saw registrations for the immigration and the food, health leisure work groups. In any case it would be ironic if precisely this work-group on Participatory Tools would not consider any form of remote participation. But from what I have gathered so far, it is up to us to make it happen...

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Steve Huckle Wed 4 Oct 2017 2:14PM

I sent a message to [email protected] asking about remote participation at Madrid. Unfortunately, I've had no response. How to organise?

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Oliver Kalleinen Wed 4 Oct 2017 3:19PM

I guess the first step is to identify the people that will go to Madrid and are dedicated to Participatory Tools work-group. I think it is difficult to strive for a constant remote participation, in my experience this is difficult. But the work-group in Madrid could schedule for each day a dedicated skype session in which remote participants can comment, ask, suggest etc. I also would think that some part of the discussion could take place here in Loomio. For example if the work-group that is in Madrid posts 1 or 2 questions which they discussed during the day on Loomio so that remote participants could add their point of view on those questions during the night.

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Steve Huckle Thu 5 Oct 2017 7:59AM

I like those suggestions, very much - particularly posting the discussions (that's also a nice way to document what goes on). How do we make that happen?

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Oliver Kalleinen Thu 5 Oct 2017 8:20AM

I read on some of the crypt or hackpads that there was the idea to have "point" people (I guess it means coordinators) for each work group, in our case I recall vaguely Thomas or Tomas was mentioned. Best would be to get in touch with him/her while continue the discussion here in loomio. From the program it seems that Thursday 26.10. is the actual working day of the work groups, so it would make sense to schedule a conference call during that day.

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Steve Huckle Thu 5 Oct 2017 1:52PM

Er, Tomas who? How do I get in contact with them? Forgive me if I'm missing something....

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Oliver Kalleinen Thu 5 Oct 2017 3:54PM

In the jungle of pads I found this: https://mypads.framapad.org/mypads/?/mypads/group/eca-madrid-ikgde722/pad/view/eca-madrid-documentation-proposal-9cr9e7fx There is mentioned the term "Point people", I had heard the term before on another pad which I cannot locate anymore. For our particular work-group there is following entry:

Democratic tools for democracy (part of Participation of citizens to urban policies + Technology for citizen)
ECA ¿?
ABROAD tbc Stéphanie Bost, Thomas de Groot***
SPAIN: ParticipaLab (Medialab - Madrid) - CONFIRMED

I assume it is just a typo in the heading, it should be Particpatory Tools for Democracy...So it would be perhaps a good idea to contact Thomas and Stephanie for further details. Just guessing though... The perks of decentralization & self-organisation.;)

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Oliver Kalleinen Sun 8 Oct 2017 5:28PM

This loomio forum is quite unresponsive considering that it is the main internal communication platform of ECA. Steve and me would like to figure out how we could remote-contribute to this working group, but we cannot even find out who is actually in the work-group and who is in Madrid. The "point" person was online here 1 month ago. I guess an issue this particular work-group should address. If communication happens on 10 different platforms it will be difficult to live up to the transparency claim of ECA.

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Margarita Tue 10 Oct 2017 6:47AM

Hi communers! I will stay in Madrid, it easy to me because I live here.
I involve in research activity and I also introduced a participatory tool in Spain in 2014. Now is practically in disuse. You can see, www.votando.es.
See you in Madrid if is possible to you!!

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