'Online Platform Purchasing Co-op'
There has been a lot of discussion about what the best outcome of the #buytwitter campaign is, and what areas we should be investing our collective energy.
I feel that we have people settling into several overlapping areas of thought.
(i) let's establish a feasible and pragmatic approach to buying out Twitter today
(ii) use the idea of buying out Twitter as a thought-experiment to stimulate debate
(iii) use the #buytwitter momentum to build the capacity (that didn't exist for the #buytwitter campaign) to buy the next appropriate online platform that becomes available (or indeed invest in nascent platform co-ops).
I think all three areas merit investment - but I am personally most interested in the (iii) area of investment and debate.
I thus propose that we set up a sub-group on Loomio where people who wish to focus on this element of the campaign may do so, without diluting the work on area (i).
What does the community think about this? And does anyone else have another proposal for an alternative way to progress the organisation of the (iii) element of the campaign in tandem with the others.
Past Loomio Threads for context:
After the group successfully committing the capital to pay for our monthly Loomio use... we are a purchasing co-op! :)
"I think the Solid Fund model could be the answer in the short-term.
It's an unincorporated group based on an operating manual, using Loomio for decision-making, multiple trustees decided by the group, and funds held by a sponsoring organisation.
I think this model (adapted to our specific needs/goals) could get us through the next few steps (and associated trust-building) - and parks the messy (and expensive) conversation around incorporation.
Horse before the cart, as we say in Ireland :)
Next step, work on an operating manual? (Anyone want to pre-empt my proposal, I'll make one once I have a bit of time, but happy for someone else to start it - and i can edit).
John Gieryn started a proposal Tue 8 Nov 2016
Let's Make a Sub-Group to Dev. an Online Platform Purchasing Co-op Closed Sat 12 Nov 2016
Loomio enables subgroups that the parent-group has full access to and nearly equivalent notifications (with users able to opt in for equal or greater notifications), so let's go ahead and make @SamToland (or another) to set this up:
> I thus propose that we set up a sub-group on Loomio where people who wish to focus on this element of the campaign may do so, without diluting the work on area (i).
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Wed 9 Nov 2016
Think that building the capacity to purchasing existing online platforms, and support the development of user-owned platforms should be a key goal of the group, and a great way of harnessing the energy of the #buytwitter campaign for the longer-term.
I think the only thing that will spark movement is funds coming together.. Seems like it might best be done thru a new platform and I'd be happy to help.
Nathan Schneider started a proposal Thu 8 Dec 2016
Let's start by paying our own way with Loomio Closed Sat 10 Dec 2016
This proposal was treated as passed and the first month of the subscription has just been paid for through the Internet of Ownership Project Council.
I have an idea! There's been a lot of talk about starting a purchasing co-op, and not a lot of clarity about what that would actually consist of, or how we would start. Meanwhile, we're chatting our heads off on Loomio, a platform created by an awesome worker co-op in New Zealand. They've given us free Slack integration and have provided a lot of free consultation. Wouldn't it be great to support them? And to start experimenting with what it might look like to have a co-op at the same time?
Here's my proposal. Internet of Ownership has an account with the awesome open company Gratipay, and several people have liked the idea of building our co-op under the IoO banner. We need $20/month to pay for the level of service we're getting through Loomio. So how about this: At least 20 of us commit to contributing $0.25 per week on Gratipay (bringing the total IoO weekly intake to at least $9.05). Then we will start paying for our Loomio.
I am also very open to alternative solutions for how to implement this, other than Gratipay/IoO. Suggest them in the comments. But please weigh in on the basic decision to start raising $20/month and pay for this great cooperative service we're getting.
What do you think?
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Thu 8 Dec 2016
I think a pay-to-play approach for this coop might be good. It can be a small token sum of $3 a month to be part of this and finance some of the basics (that won't pay for Slack even)…
Thu 8 Dec 2016
Love this idea. I've been really consumed with other stuff the last several weeks and haven't been able to contribute here discussion-wise. I like this because it's action I can take :)
Thu 8 Dec 2016
I support us as a group taking shared risks as a community - fostering a sense of shared ownership.
I also like the principle of supporting all the work and support Loomio have provided.
However shouldn't be perceived as mandatory to contribute.
Thu 8 Dec 2016
Our goal is to organize an economic entity large enough to buy and run a major platform, and this seems like a small, concrete step in that direction.
I'm abstaining only because (disclosure) I started Gratipay. Happy to answer any questions! :-)
Amelia Rose Khan
Fri 9 Dec 2016
I agree with this but can't pay any money into this at the moment.
Sun 11 Dec 2016
Love this idea. As someone else said too, it's a concrete step we can take to support a service that has already been created for the kind of cooperative organizing that we want to do here. Let's do this!