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Mon 16 Oct 2017 6:02AM

P2P food system as a major environmental and social solution?

RL Robert LaRocque Public Seen by 118

Hello everyone.

I'm new to the group. Have been interested in P2P-Commons ideas for some time though.

I'm an Ecology student and particularly interested in agriculture. Both from a social standpoint, and an ecological standpoint.

So, existing practices in agriculture often focus solely on maximizing profit. And that focus excludes other externalities. There are several major issues with the dominant mode of food production.

Soil degradation: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/

Encroachment on ecosystems: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/aug/10/agriculture-and-overuse-greater-threats-to-wildlife-than-climate-change-study

Large levels of chemical input, domination by "cash crops", developing countries producing only expert crops and not food for people to eat locally, etc.

I think that agriculture can be better be done with a few novel principles. These principles are embodied in concepts like permaculture, agroecology, aquaponics, etc.

We can do agriculture in ways that have diverse benefits. Such as increased soil carbon uptake, increased farm biodoversity, as well as returning something of a humanistic heart and an ecology-valuing ethic into it.

One of the links above claims that agriculture and land use is a bigger threat to wildlife than climate change. Which I think is accurate. And now consider we are going to add another 3 billion humans on to the planet by 2050. What will our land use impact look like then?

Well, I think that we can shrink this footprint drastically, and at the same time make the fundamental human activity of growing food one that is regenerative and actually friends with ecology/biodiversity.

There is a good argument that we can bring a significant proportion of food production into the area of in and around urban areas: http://www.anthropocenemagazine.org/2016/10/can-local-food-feed-an-urban-world/

With new systems such as aquaponics, we can produce with less water, less size footprint, less resources of all sorts.

So, perhaps an alternative system is possible. It could be organized with a platform that allows direct P2P exchange on local markets. Perhaps the idea can be popularized to attempt to eat your entire diet based on local sustainable food, which can be done as simply as using an app.

This connection would also help prospective growers enter and sell food with much lower barriers to entry. Maybe all you've got is an apple tree and a squash plant in your backyard. But those will produce a surplus, and we can incentivize that local and environmentally benign mode of food production for those who would like to enter and earn a small amount of money doing so.

You can boost the practices of the producers in such a market by amassing a common pool of resources and knowledge, on farming in local conditions, using certain techniques, on issues like carbon sequestration or habitat creation, etc.

Local seed markets could reinvigorate our ancient traditions of active plant breeding and adapting diverse strains to our local conditions. Hierloom and local cultivars could make a big comeback.

Such a system, in my view, could be a major first step towards truly developing an alternative economy. If we can grow and trade our own food in this way, what else? Perhaps energy? Or goods in themselves?

A P2P Local Food Market, hosted on a coop platform, using a common resource of knowledge and practices... Not only does this have the potential to be broadly beneficial, both environmentally and socially, and return autonomy and connection to our own resource base as humans, it could also be a major cirst step starting point towards creating other horizontally networked modes of production and cooperation in other domains.

Sorry to go on at such length here, but I had to get the idea out of my mind fully! Does anybody have any thoughts on this?

BH

Bob Haugen Tue 14 Nov 2017 4:51PM

(I can't seem to find where to link in loomio .... yet

You can just paste an URL in your comment. Like https://openfoodnetwork.org/

DS

Danyl Strype Wed 15 Nov 2017 2:04AM

Or you can use MarkDown format to make linked text. Just put [] around the words you want to appear and right after that, put () around the web address you want them to link to. Like this but with no spaces:

linked text

RP

Robert Pekin Thu 16 Nov 2017 6:59AM

Thanks Bob, that will help a lot
cheers
Rob

RP

Robert Pekin Thu 16 Nov 2017 7:07AM

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Robert Pekin Thu 16 Nov 2017 7:08AM

It works @strypey, unbelievable

DS

Danyl Strype Tue 14 Nov 2017 11:24AM

Thanks for starting this topic @robertlarocque , and great to see Open Food Network in the house (high five @robertpekin ), I met Serenity Hill at the first Open Source//Open Society and we had a great conversation about the OFN's vision. There are so many great resources in this space, thanks especially to folks like the biodynamics and organics movements, the permaculture and slow food movements that grew out of their compost heaps, and the transition movement that grew out of permaculture.

Firstly, check out the Localizing Food Project, spearheaded by one of my permaculture teachers, Robina McCurdy of Earthcare Educators Aotearoa. Robina travelled the length of this country connecting with local food projects, and is producing a series of crowdfunded documentary films covering different aspects of them. The latest one is 'Edible Paradise - Growing the Food Forest Revolution'.

Secondly, have a browse through Appropedia.org, a crowdsourced mediawiki site for appropriate technology, PracticalPlants.org and Plants for a Future, which are the same thing but for articles about plants. There's also OpenSourceEcology.org, an appropriate tech development project based at FactorE Farms. Also WikiHouse.cc, it's not about food, but like OpenSourceEcology it does demonstrate the way the crowdsourcing and human-centred design principles behind wikis and free code software can be applied to creating new stuff on the physical layer.

Thirdly, the P2P food network/ app idea is already being tried by folks like OFN, and here in Aotearoa, BuckyBox (now fully free code), and OOOBY (Out of Our Own Backyards), see OOOBY founder Pete Russell's TEDx talk on 'Hacking the supply chain' (sadly I believe OOOBY's platform remains proprietary). I'm collecting notes about food coop and box scheme software on the Aotearoa Permaculture Network wiki.

Finally, a bit of shameless self-promotion, I wrote a paper for the FreeCulture2010 conference called 'Free to Know or Free to Own? Convergence of Free and Slow Culture in Global Relocalisation'. It looks at the parallels and points of overlap between the original ecology movement and what I sometimes call 'digital ecology', the worlds of free code, online commons, and green tech.

SH

Steve Huckle Wed 15 Nov 2017 10:26AM

@strypey, I like this line from your paper's abstract: "the freedom to know and the freedom to grow are going to have to take precedence over the freedom to own". Boom!