Loomio
Sun 24 Aug 2014 3:56AM

Suggestions for supporting translation

MI mix irving Public Seen by 80

Hi all, Loomio is actively moving to improve how it supports languages. We want to make it easy and enjoyable for translators to contribute.

Our first thought was to make a page which acts as a clear introduction and guide for new and existing translators.
What should this include ?

Also, are there other suggestions you have for how we can improve translation?


note - if you would like to contact Nati about translation process, please email her at [email protected]

MI

Poll Created Sun 24 Aug 2014 4:07AM

I've made suggestions for translation process Closed Sun 31 Aug 2014 8:07AM

Outcome
by mix irving Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:21AM

really great insights were offered. From here, I will:
- make a page with the most important information, including my email for easier direct questions
- ask for more feedback :)
- try with German translators to improve in-team communication

We'd love to hear your suggestions and feedback about how to improve the translation process, so that we build the best system for everyone.

Check out the discussion description for our proposed starting point, then add your own ideas, ask questions, and leave your thoughts in the discussion section.

Please use this vote to show that you've seen this, and contributed.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 83.3% 5 MI AR CM AB JW
Abstain 16.7% 1 JK
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 200 RG JL RDB NW BK SD N T SJ DL JS OVB ST JJ M FGP QG RG NG CT

6 of 206 people have participated (2%)

JK

Joop Kiefte (LaPingvino)
Abstain
Sun 24 Aug 2014 5:13AM

I don't have any real issues with how translation goes now.

AR

A. Renato
Agree
Sun 24 Aug 2014 9:01AM

The translation process is going very well.

JW

Jochen Walter
Agree
Sun 24 Aug 2014 9:04AM

A page with the most important inforamtions will be very good.

CM

Christian Mairoll
Agree
Sun 24 Aug 2014 9:14AM

A little bit more structure and help can't hurt. :)

AB

Ania Bućkowska
Agree
Sun 31 Aug 2014 7:08AM

I agree with Christian Mairoll suggestions. As a new translator to the existing group I felt disoriented and lost my passion for translation. Thank you for this discussion and taking steps to improve the process :)

AB

Ania Bućkowska
Agree
Sun 31 Aug 2014 7:09AM

I agree with Christian Mairoll's suggestions. As a new translator to the existing group I felt disoriented and lost my passion for translation. Thank you for this discussion and taking steps to improve the process :)

CM

Christian Mairoll Sun 24 Aug 2014 4:41AM

I strongly support the idea of making a tutorial for translators.

When I joined the translators, it was a bit difficult to navigate through the provided information.

Some thoughts:

  1. Where to find the Translation group? If you don't have bookmarked the page, there is no way to get there except via the search feature. It would be very useful to see the groups I'm participating in linked somewhere on the top panel.

  2. Make a step by step guide what to do in order to set up new translations and how to join an existing translation team.

  3. Introduce the concept of Transifex. I've never seen it before Loomio and I didn't know how it is supposed to be used at all. Most of it is self-describing though.

  4. Make a guide or at least suggestions how to work in a team. What I mean is the process of translating, verifying and approving texts by different people.

  5. Tell us what to do after translating to get the new texts online. Email you? Is it done periodically? Nobody really knows at the moment what the process behind is.

  6. Make a suggestion how translators of a specific language are supposed to communicate and coordinate with each other. A personal message tool would be VERY useful for that. At the moment nobody even knows who actively works on which translations unless you crawl endlessly through the comments history or translation logs on Transifex. There is no way to ask another translator personally how things were meant (e.g. to ask whether to use formal or informal style). Things that are not subject for open discussions.

JK

Joop Kiefte (LaPingvino) Sun 24 Aug 2014 5:12AM

@christianmairoll maybe we should have a loomio sub-group for every language (with more than one active translator)?

AR

A. Renato Sun 24 Aug 2014 9:01AM

In my opinion the translation process is going very well. Each step is easy, what doesn’t mean that it can’t get better – not necessarily easier. Perhaps the most important issue is yet to come: online support in many languages. The question is how to overcome the relation between translators doing the support while keeping the privacy of the senders. Still without ideas on how it would be done. So, this message adds nothing at all.

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