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Tue 4 Oct 2016

Introductory Conference Call/Hangout Agenda?

MC
Matthew Cropp Public Seen by 539

Reading through everything that's been posted thus-far got me thinking that It'd be good to schedule a google hangout conversation with the agenda of discussing visions, options, and strategies, as well as for the opportunity for those of us who have rallied to the flag to introduce ourselves to each other. Below is the beginning of an agenda for such a call, which I'd aim to keep to 90 minutes; please propose amendments, additions, and/or alternatives in the comments:

-Personal Introductions: Everyone takes up to 2 minutes introducing their backgrounds, the scopes of interest, experience, and skills they bring to the project, and their realistic potential level of involvement, contribution. [30 minutes?]
-Review of Current Status of Potential Deal: Scale, players, latest news, etc. [10 minutes]
-Strategy Options Discussion: Participants summarize ideas on potential strategic approaches to the problem [max 5 minutes per participant, max 30 minutes]
-Formations of working groups to elaborate on proposed strategic approaches, build infrastructure, etc. [10 min]
-Closing thoughts from participants [10 min]

Once we have a sense of what we want to talk about, then let's discuss when...

PG

Priscilla Grim Tue 4 Oct 2016

sounds great to me -- im in -- im traveling on Thursday but flexible otherwise

CW

Chad Whitacre Tue 4 Oct 2016

What's our plan for transparency? How can we hold this meeting in a way that others in the (nascent) community who either can't or don't want to attend can still understand what was discussed and decided? Two options I see are live-streaming/archiving it, and keeping minutes.

TM

Tom McDonough Tue 4 Oct 2016

Excellent idea. Let's schedule this within the week.

Tom McDonoughAn Eye For Others: bit.ly/AnEye4Others ( http://bit.ly/AnEye4Others )

MD

Mary Duffy Tue 4 Oct 2016

You can make a recording of most phone calls and and aso provide a transcription, which costs $60 or so for an hour's call with every uhm and ah transcribed.

SF

Suresh Fernando Tue 4 Oct 2016

I'm in for a call to explore vision and strategy.

MC

Matthew Cropp Tue 4 Oct 2016

Alright; since he wrote the article and probably has the best holistic sense of the terrain right now for the "Review of Current Status" section, I'd nominate @ntnsndr to determine a few times that would work for him, and then we could doodle those dates to see what would allow for maximum participation.

As to transparency, if we were to do a Google Hangout On Air, that can be set up to both stream live and automatically upload the video to a youtube channel. How do folks feel about that approach?

NS

Nathan Schneider Tue 4 Oct 2016

Thanks for mentioning me here, and I'd love to participate, but I probably can't until after the 17th because of travel. I could possibly do it mid-to-late afternoon this Friday, Mountain Time. We could also try Saturday, though that's not ideal.

If it doesn't fit with my crazy schedule, I would be happy to just hear about it. To be honest, I feel there are others here whose participation is more crucial—people who are better positioned to act on the proposal than I am.

So excited by all this momentum, and I'll continue supporting it as best I can!

CC

Chris Cook Tue 4 Oct 2016

I'm in, provided it's not too early UK time

S

Sreeharsha Tue 4 Oct 2016

I am in to understand more and gather support from Indian Community !!

AI

Alanna Irving Wed 5 Oct 2016

Trying to organise a call time that will work for everyone is going to be a nightmare. @matthewcropp and @ntnsndr you should just pick a time (and a video chat platform) and announce it, and whoever can join will join.

Because we have Loomio for decisions, people don't have to worry about being left out before you can just report back on Loomio from the meeting, and raise proposals for any important decisions that emerge.

If others want to schedule other calls at others times, they should also feel free to do so.

NS

Nathan Schneider Wed 5 Oct 2016

How about Friday afternoon? Like about 4 pm MT? Would that work?
@chriscook1 @whit537 @priscillagrim @matthewcropp @sureshfernando @arminsteuernagel1 etc.

SF

Suresh Fernando Thu 6 Oct 2016

I could make that work

CC

Chris Cook Thu 6 Oct 2016

Works for me. Late but not too late.

AI

Alanna Irving Thu 6 Oct 2016

@ntnsndr if you don't mind I'm going to backseat facilitate you ;)

Raise a proposal that says:


I'm joining the video call this Friday 4PM MDT (6PM EDT/ 3PM PDT)

This is an open invitation to join the call to talk about the BuyTwitter movement. We know not everyone can make this time, so we'll report back what we discuss and raise proposals about any decisions on Loomio.

Hit the green thumb if you can make it, and note anything you'd like on the agenda. To join to call, [link or info about getting on].


This will notify everyone in the group and also give people a way to "RSVP" so you have an idea of who's coming and you can start co-creating an agenda easily.

AS

Armin Steuernagel Thu 6 Oct 2016

4pm MT works for me.

MC

Matthew Cropp Thu 6 Oct 2016

I've got at dinner commitment that evening, but will try to make as much of it as I can. I think having the initial conversation sooner rather than l8r is important, so my potentially limited availability shouldn't be a barrier to this.

BF

Bonnie Foley-Wong Thu 6 Oct 2016

A call for everyone or just the people tagged here? Oh, I just saw Alanna Krause's note that it is a call for everyone.

NS

Nathan Schneider Thu 6 Oct 2016

Anyone who wants to join! Sorry I didn't tag you. I would love love love if you could join!

NS

Nathan Schneider started a proposal Thu 6 Oct 2016

I'm joining the video call this Friday 4PM MDT (6PM EDT/ 3PM PDT) Closed Thu 6 Oct 2016

Outcome
by Nathan Schneider Tue 25 Apr 2017

We're going to do this call! But instead of Jitsi, we'll do it with Hangouts on Air.

Friday, October 7
4 pm MT (http://www.timebie.com/timezone/denver.php)

Join:
https://hangouts.google.com/call/w4yy3wxdrjb7fcasfzmljdcppue

Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BS2TTqatc

This is an open invitation to join the call to talk about the BuyTwitter movement. We know not everyone can make this time, so we'll report back what we discuss and raise proposals about any decisions on Loomio.

Hit the green thumb if you can make it, and note anything you'd like on the agenda. To join to call on Jitsi:

https://meet.mayfirst.org/buytwitter

Results
Agree - 9
Abstain - 9
Disagree - 9
Block - 9
17 people have voted (6%)
NS

Nathan Schneider
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

NS

Nathan Schneider Thu 6 Oct 2016

Thanks:)

MC

Matthew Cropp
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Have a dinner obligation, but will attempt to attend at least some of the call.

AS

Armin Steuernagel
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

SF

Suresh Fernando
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

PT

Peter Tregilgas
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

That should be 9am Sydney time?

NS

Nathan Schneider Thu 6 Oct 2016

Here's a time zone converter for MT: http://www.timebie.com/timezone/denver.php

AI

Alanna Irving
Disagree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

No capacity, but hope it goes well! Looking forward to the notes being posted on Loomio.

CT

Christopher Taylor
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

MD

Mary Duffy
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

PG

Priscilla Grim
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

ST

Sam Toland
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Can't join, but think it should happen.

I would suggest someone records the meeting and publishes it.

Minutes at the least.

Good luck. ;)

JV

Joshua Vial
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

CW

Chad Whitacre
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Not gonna make it but glad it's happening!

JW

Justin Wedes
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

JW

Justin Wedes Thu 6 Oct 2016

Looking forward to the call but having trouble installing the "Temasys WebRTC Plugin"on my mac Safari browser. After downloading and placing in my Internet Plugins folder still no luck.

JG

John Gieryn
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

I hope to make it; I've one meeting still in the air that eve.

JG

John Gieryn
Disagree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Unfortunately unable due to other commitment; Best Wishes!

WM

Wolfgang Maehr
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Can't make it as I'm on the other side of the globe, but good that it's happening!

G

Georgina
Abstain
Thu 6 Oct 2016

Can't join either but it would be great to read/watch the discussion.

NS

Nathan Schneider Thu 6 Oct 2016

Then let's do a recorded Hangout. Can you or someone set that up? I'm not a Hangout expert.

NS

Nathan Schneider Thu 6 Oct 2016

Then let's do a recorded Hangout. Can you or someone set that up? I'm not a Hangout expert.

AS

Alvaro Solache
Agree
Thu 6 Oct 2016

BF

Bonnie Foley-Wong Thu 6 Oct 2016

I'm going to try to join. Missed the window on responding to the proposal.

AI

Alanna Irving Thu 6 Oct 2016

@ntnsndr if you're changing the video tool, setting the outcome statement on the proposal is a useful way to let everyone know the new link

MC

Matthew Cropp Fri 7 Oct 2016

@ntnsndr unfortunately, I will be running between meetings, so I will not be able to run tech on the "Hangouts on Air" recorded hangout, but if you have a youtube account, I believe this link should bring you to the correct page to schedule one. https://www.youtube.com/my_live_events?action_create_live_event=1

You can then launch the hangout from Creator Studio > Livestreaming > Events

If Nathan doesn't feel comfortable doing this, is there anyone else who knows how to set up and run a Hangouts on Air who can facilitate the tech this time?

SF

Suresh Fernando Fri 7 Oct 2016

@ntnsndr - will there be an agenda? It should also be facilitated. I'm comfortable with your facilitating if you want.

NS

Nathan Schneider Fri 7 Oct 2016

I'm assuming we'd follow the basic agenda that @matthewcropp proposed at the start of this thread. With the exception that I can't stay more than an hour or so because I have childcare duties.

I agree on needing facilitation. I'd be willing to do it, unless there's someone else who would like to. I'm only a so-so facilitator, so if anyone has strong experience in that area, please step forward! But if it's me, I'll do my best.

SF

Suresh Fernando Fri 7 Oct 2016

@matthewcropp ... apologies... yes, this agenda looks good to me!

TM

Tom McDonough Fri 7 Oct 2016

Looking forward to the meetup. I'll be in and out.

TM

Tom McDonough Fri 7 Oct 2016

Just discovered I have no mic here. I'll be watching and listening. Here are some comments I would have made:
- I sketched out the model that Nathan referred to in his article. It assumed that a group representing 40% of the shares would vote for the co-op. I expressed this as 3 million users would purchase 100 shares each (now less than $2000). I think the 40% is critical for a transformation to co-op. Without this type of interest and commitment, financing would come from the same market forces that took over Twitter in the first place.
- Part of the 40% might include Twitter employees who would agree to cash out at the market price but stay in for the co-op.
- If 2 or 3 million users are needed, how do we recruit them? How can we promote the co-op concept to this larger group?
- As the potential purchasers back off, a stock price of $17 looks realistic. But how much of even this lower value can be attributed to celebrity accounts? And do we want to pay for this? Gets back to the buy or build issue.

NS

Nathan Schneider Fri 7 Oct 2016

I've adjusted the agenda somewhat and posted it here:
https://etherpad.net/p/BuyTwitterCall

Feel free to add suggestions on the pad below the text.

SF

Suresh Fernando Fri 7 Oct 2016

Getting an error message when I try to join the Hangout. Is it just me?

NS

Nathan Schneider Fri 7 Oct 2016

Great call, all!

@sureshf took responsibility for formalizing a design for the investment cooperative; I'm going to work on guerrilla marketing with @tristancopleysmith. @thomaseuler1 and @asolache will work on setting up a call next week.

Also, we encourage everyone to read and comment on @thomaseuler1's strategy proposal here.

All these are open groups, which anyone is welcome to join.

CC

Chris Cook Fri 7 Oct 2016

Dud mike unfortunately. I'm in for the Investment Co-op sub-group if there's interest in exploring beyond debt & equity. @sureshf

SF

Suresh Fernando Fri 7 Oct 2016

@chriscook1 The way that I'm thinking about this is that the Working Group we are creating is the Finance and Structure Group that has the responsibility for painting a picture of what a transaction would look like and how to structure both the transaction as well as the new organization that is created.

At this point I'm completely open to what that might look like. We can explore different types of transactions; standard and 'non-standard'.

We decided to move forward with building momentum for this initiative by 'pursuing Twitter' since, even if we are unsuccessful, we will be leveraging all the Twitter momentum.

So... if you want to advance a non-standard transaction, it would be helpful if you could put a few thoughts together that included specifics relating to Twitter and what it would take to pull this off.

What do you think?

SF

Suresh Fernando Sat 8 Oct 2016

Also @chriscook1 ... would be cool if you sent your email to @samtoland so that he can invite you to Slack. Allows for real time communication.

We definitely could use your creative mind on this problem!

JG

John Gieryn Sat 8 Oct 2016

Not sure if there's a separate YouTube link that was generated to view the occasion post-meeting? I tried the WATCH link to no avail, but perhaps this is b.c. I'm on mobile, but maybe that link was only for LIVE watching

NS

Nathan Schneider Sat 8 Oct 2016

Darn, @coopchange, I'm sorry, I think I made a mistake and it didn't get recorded. I'm new to the Hangout on Air thing. The main takeaways were:

  1. Consensus about the general direction as articulated here
  2. Agreement to create groups for a) drafting a manifesto for outreach, and b) beginning to develop a legal structure.
KC

Karun Cowper Sun 9 Oct 2016

Bummer about no record! :(

Was there any pad?

Next call?

NS

Nathan Schneider Sun 9 Oct 2016

Yes, there was a pad, to which I've added a few notes about outcomes:
https://etherpad.net/p/BuyTwitterCall

@thomaseuler1 volunteered to organize the next call next week. Thomas, any sense of when that will be?

AS

Alvaro Solache Sun 9 Oct 2016

I offered myself if was needed. Would be nice to vote the agenda. I said on wendsday at 00:00 Spain Time wold be good for me.

SF

Suresh Fernando Fri 21 Oct 2016

Has an open conference call being scheduled? Maybe I think it would be a good idea for those that are interested in moving this overall process forward to get on a Hangout again and to figure out a path that we can agree on...

Maybe this already exists and I'm just out of the loop ;-)

@thomaseuler1 ... I know you've been working on setting up the calls. Any news?

TE

Thomas Euler Tue 25 Oct 2016

Not really. I got feedback re scheduling by like 4 people and it didn't appear like that many were interested. Still, I agree: hangouts and more personal, face2face discussion would be great - I asked for this a couple of times on Slack as well - but it appears to be kind of hard on the overall-group level.

But please feel free to pick this up and try again. I'm all in favor of it and think it would be helpful.

ADB

Andrea Di Biagio Thu 12 Jan 2017

Is there another introductory call planned? How do you on-board new-comers?

I am really excited in the project and the idea of changing the economy of this and other very useful platform so that they can be their best. This can be done in so many ways, I'd like to know where this group's at.

ML

Mark Latham Thu 12 Jan 2017

Hi Andrea! I suggest going to our Platform Purchasing Co-op subgroup page and clicking to ask to join it. You will also see links there to our buytwitter slack channel -- good to join.

JG

John Gieryn Thu 12 Jan 2017

after you join that sub-group, you'll see there's a call being planned concerning general strategy and infrastructure in this thread