Pirate Kittens [IT] ; find and host libre tools that pirates need
Ilja
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Context:
There are several crews and squads in the pirate party using software tools to fit their needs. Taking initiative is always a good thing and we should encourage this! We should also understand that these people often want to go forward with their project, without having to think to much about the tools they use beyond their practical value. This often leads to the use of non-libre tools and/or tools hosted by companies who's values are at odds with values we have as pirates.
I believe the IT-squad should see it as their responsibility to identify the needs of those crews and squads and find and propose libre alternatives to these tools. This way people can focus on their own projects without having to bother with findig tools that are both practical AND libre.
Proposal:
Let's start a project with the IT-squad to identify what functionality several crews and squads need, list them, find alternatives, get feedback, refine..., and eventually implement/host/link to... these tools so that they are easy to find and use for everyone inside the pirate party.
Inspired by the chatons.org project where people host libre software for others to use, I propose to call this project 'Pirate Kittens'
wiki: https://wiki.pirateparty.be/Pirate_Kittens
pad: https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/pirate_kittens
mail: [email protected]
HgO Wed 28 Feb 2018 3:33PM
I'm all in !!
For the list of crews, most of them are already on the wiki home page (probably some are inactive), and there is some information in this topic too : https://www.loomio.org/d/SAW3EFV2/current-status-of-the-crews
Should we create a form and send it to the crews ? Or just a mail would be enough ?
Ilja Wed 28 Feb 2018 5:05PM
WOOHOOW (o^ )/ I'm not alone!
I think a mail will be more than sufficient for now.
I'll make a wiki-page and start a template for a mail that we can then send out. I'll try to do this before next week
Ilja Wed 28 Feb 2018 5:43PM
I've made the wiki. I also made a pad for collaborative effords. (think building the contacts-list, drafting the mail...). I'll add the links to the description
Ilja Wed 28 Feb 2018 7:59PM
First draft of the mail, under section Mail: https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/pirate_kittens
I also started on the collection of groups to contact (also on the pad, section Who to contact)
Phew, that was quick :p
Ilja Thu 1 Mar 2018 6:42PM
I've updated the mail to not only say software, but also IT-services.
I also updated the contact lists. I've skimmed the wiki and webpage to find mailaddresses, members and other contact information.
So the questions now are:
1. Is this mail Ok?
* Do we personalise stuff for certain people/groups?
2. To whom do we send it?
* We don't want to spam everyone, but maybe just the main-addresses may not really be enough.
3. I also feel that we'd need a bit more 'back-up' than just the two who are here already. I think I'll poke some people on Mastodon :p (This isn't really a question, but meh)
HgO Fri 2 Mar 2018 4:26PM
For me, the mail is fine. I've just formatted a bit the questions (as a list, it's easier to read). I don't understand what you mean with "- What functions do you need it for preform?" ?
I think that'd be better to translate it in French and Dutch. Or explain that we accept replies in Dutch / French.
I think we should just put the name of the group, as many people are in several groups.
I'd send it to the main addresses, and after two weeks, if we have no reply, we try personal mail addresses or other ways...
Well, I'd like at least to have the opinion of @tierce and @zefredz :)
Ilja Sat 3 Mar 2018 10:47AM
Yes bullet points are a lot better, I've changed to use * instead of - 'cause I use this a bit lower in the mail. I've also noticed we can comment in the pads themself :o (maybe we knew that, but I didn't), so I tried that out as well :p .
I've changed "- What functions do you need it for preform?" to "What functionalities do you need your software to preform?". I've also did some other touch ups on the questions.
I'm not sure about translating, but why not, so Ok.
I've added a line that says they can answer in another language (you understand Esperanto right? ;) )
I'm not sure what you mean with "I think we should just put the name of the group, as many people are in several groups."
I agree on the idee of sending to the main addresses first, and others if needed.
And yes, I'd like those peoples opinions as well.
Ilja Sat 3 Mar 2018 11:09AM
I've put the mainaddresses in a list. There are some that I'm not sure of. I didn't see a mailaddress for Gent and Leuven, but they have a FB-page, so we could just copy-paste into the chat (or make a message to fit better in a chat context).
And then there are three that I'm not sure if they need to be contacted as well ('cause I think not really active), if yes, we'll need to contact members
Ilja Sat 3 Mar 2018 3:31PM
@tierce linked this on Mastodon: https://wiki.pirateparty.be/ITSquad/Pirates_Selection/brainstorming
May be helpfull later.
Ilja · Sun 25 Feb 2018 2:17PM
The roadmap that I propose:
1. Make Wiki-page to keep track of what we do in a structured way
2. Make a list of crews, squads... and ways to contact them
3. Contact them asking for the tools and functionalities they need/use. Practical examples where they use the tools could also help us further down the line.
4. Structure the feedback to get a good insight of what's missing.
5. Find alternatives and propose them.
6. Take feedback, if NOK: goto 4.
7. Find a good way to host whats needed. Make sure there is an easy way for people who need to use the tools to find these tools.
8. Get feedback, if NOK: goto 4.