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November 27th, 2015 05:19

Constitution amendment: allow voting rights to any nationality

Pirate Praveen
Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 259

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen started a proposal November 27th, 2015 05:20

allow any nationality voting rights Closed 10:07am - Monday 30 Nov 2015

Outcome
by Balasankar C April 25th, 2017 05:41

We will have to discuss this again.

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

Results
Agree - 1
Abstain - 1
Disagree - 1
Block - 0
3 people have voted (0%)
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen
Agree
November 27th, 2015 05:21

People like vik should get voting rights

Balasankar C

Balasankar C
Disagree
November 27th, 2015 07:29

Balasankar C

Balasankar C November 27th, 2015 07:29

I still stand with my initial opinion.

"Even though I would go with the decision of the group, I suggest to include
* Indians - Living in India or Abroad
* Non-Indians - Living in India

I don't see (yet) how Non-Indians who doesn't live in India can understand our situation.
"

Balasankar C

Balasankar C November 27th, 2015 07:31

I believe my proposition makes Vik eligible for inclusion. Right?

Akshay

Akshay November 29th, 2015 06:03

I'll just reiterate my stance here

Everything need not be put to vote. And everyone need not become members. There needs to be some kind of a membership that allows one to participate and there needs to be some kind of a consensus building system that allows decisions to be made irrespective of the number of people in support/opposition.

I'm not in a position to think about and propose such an amendment right now.

And I can't quite figure out which side to take on this amendment either.

Akshay

Akshay
Abstain
November 29th, 2015 06:04

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen November 30th, 2015 09:25

@balasankarchelamat do you think non Indian who don't live in India will get voting rights without significant contribution/acceptance by at least two members? Isn't the support from two members criteria enough to stop anyone who is not contributing significantly from getting voting rights?

Balasankar C

Balasankar C November 30th, 2015 09:29

Then why do we need an amendment?

"Anyone" doesn't have any filters. Why should we explicitly say "(any nationality)" ?

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen November 30th, 2015 10:31

@balasankarchelamat because I never thought about it when I wrote it. I assumed only Indians would want to join "Indian Pirates". So we have to clarify and remove any confusion.

Balasankar C

Balasankar C November 30th, 2015 11:25

But, we never told "only Indians". Anyway, I agree with your point now. Can you re-do the poll?

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen started a proposal November 30th, 2015 13:20

allow any nationality voting rights Closed 6:07pm - Thursday 3 Dec 2015

[Redoing the poll]

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

Note: Since associate member needs support from 2 permanent members, I think it is enough to ensure only significant contributors get voting rights.

Results
Agree - 2
Abstain - 0
Disagree - 0
Block - 0
2 people have voted (0%)
Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen
Agree
November 30th, 2015 13:20

Balasankar C

Balasankar C
Agree
December 2nd, 2015 12:15

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen December 6th, 2015 09:16

@akshay can you update website?

Akshay

Akshay December 6th, 2015 12:27

I'll take one month to update. (Exams)

Anyone else interested? Edit the file in https://gitlab.com/piratemovin/website/tree/master

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen January 21st, 2016 16:41

@akshay can you update now :)

Akshay

Akshay January 21st, 2016 16:51

Yes. Shall be done tomorrow.

Akshay

Akshay January 23rd, 2016 14:29

I've changed the reveal.js slideshow to include the change but the PDF file is unchanged.

Pirate Praveen

Pirate Praveen January 23rd, 2016 14:46

@akshay PDF is generated by just printing the slideshow as PDF from browser.