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Mon 14 Aug 2017 5:09PM

Objective of the Open App Ecosystem

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Hi all,

Seems we need to agree on the objective (thought I had made a thread with it, but apparently I didn't :D )

I took the @olisb and @gregorycassel and @lynnfoster proposition and made up another one, I put in () the name of the person who made the proposition.

Objective

A suite of interoperable tools (olisb) easy to use, install, configure and contribute to (lynn). This ecosystem will enable :
* the emergence of open, inclusive economic and social systems (greg).
* connections between people who build and use open systems (greg-mikey).
* transparent and decentralised collaboration (olisb).

If we agree on this it will become the new objective for the OAE.

D

Poll Created Mon 14 Aug 2017 5:10PM

Is this objective for the OAE is good for you ? Closed Thu 17 Aug 2017 5:16PM

A suite of interoperable tools (olisb) easy to use, install, configure and contribute to (lynn). This ecosystem will enable :
* the emergence of open, inclusive economic and social systems (greg).
* connections between people who build and use open systems (greg).
* transparent and decentralised collaboration (olisb).

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 36.4% 4 TB JW D MF
Abstain 18.2% 2 TK BH
Disagree 45.5% 5 LF JL GC SG OS
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 112 JV JL SO MT BK EP JVD ST IS CT QG KL BF JD SN MV RB CZ SP HF

11 of 123 people have participated (8%)

LF

Lynn Foster
Disagree
Tue 15 Aug 2017 1:18PM

I don't disagree with what is written, but disagree we are ready to do a formal Objective. See my last post.

GC

Greg Cassel
Disagree
Tue 15 Aug 2017 6:39PM

I think that Lynn did a nice job of indicating some concerns which I share. I think we're not ready for any inclusive formal decisions.

OS

Oli SB
Disagree
Wed 16 Aug 2017 12:34PM

For the reasons made in my comments, and Simon's...

BH

Bob Haugen
Abstain
Wed 16 Aug 2017 4:31PM

I am abstaining because it's 3 to 3 and I don't want to tip the balance. I don't think we have enough unity yet to publish a joint statement, though.

JL

James Lewis
Disagree
Wed 16 Aug 2017 4:36PM

Contains no actionable text - could be the definition of any tech soc. ent. As it's generic and broad it could not be used to facilitate e.g. goal definition, tasks, membership decisions or organisational structure.

TK

Tibor Katelbach
Abstain
Wed 16 Aug 2017 6:19PM

I agree with Bob , these points are part of what is the OAE but I think there's much more to it, like experimenting new types of open and horizontal governance, building an OCDB:Open Common Database )based on aggregations of multiple sources...++

SG

Simon Grant
Disagree
Thu 17 Aug 2017 12:09PM

Not much rewording would be needed to get the concepts in good enough order for me.

D

Draft Mon 14 Aug 2017 6:30PM

I forgot to precise @olisb I deleted the "democratic" part because this word is not really concrete anymore (everybody use it in so many ways).

GC

Greg Cassel Mon 14 Aug 2017 6:46PM

I don't want to be a pain, but I'd honestly prefer for OAE's objective to be stated in one or more complete sentences.

Maybe something like:

" Open App Ecosystem will be a suite of interoperable open source tools which are easy to use, install, configure and contribute to."
[plus those three bullet points]

Thanks @draft , @olisb , @lynnfoster etcetera for working to find common ground.

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