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DisCO - Distributed Cooperative Organization

MN Matt Noyes Public Seen by 39

In a separate discussion the idea was raised of reading and discussing the DisCO Manifesto and/or Governance Rules. (This could also lead to a Social.Coop Happy Hour video chat with someone from Guerilla Media Collective.)

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Stacco Troncoso Thu 13 Feb 2020 5:55AM

Hey there, very glad to see this. I agree that the Gov/Economic model is more operational, but the Manifesto sets out the wider cultural context (ie: why did we do this?). The former is currently very tweaked towards the idiosyncrasies of Guerrilla Translation though. The goal here is to eventually develop a more bare bones gov model, based on the TLDR. Also, before diving into the model itself it may be useful to read this laypersons' overview article. You'll encounter both links within the model, but I wanted to highlight them.

Circling back to the Manifesto, you can also read this much shorter article summarizing its main points to get a taste.

Happy to go along with whatever you choose. Looking forward to your feedback

BH

Bob Haugen Wed 12 Feb 2020 12:12AM

the nature of SC is not exactly obvious? 

It's a section of a federated social network that is focused on cooperatives. It's not an organization of its own, except as much as it needs to be to keep itself running. But it could be useful, because a lot of the participants are also active in other cooperative organizations and contexts.

One of the weaknesses of cooperatives, despite their principles, is they tend to be isolated, working on their own "mission" and not interested in organizing into anything much larger. (Yes I know that is not true of all cooperatives, but still...) SC could be (and to some extent is) a gathering place for cooperatives where connections could be made and strengthened and maybe maybe something larger could start to grow...

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mike_hales Tue 11 Feb 2020 9:35PM

@Nick Sellen noted

most organisations are not operating anywhere close to this model

I think that's why it may be so helpful to social.coop. It can help highlight the specifics of what SC does do? Perhaps, show that the commons orientation (a commons of know-how about coops?) is a stronger characteristic than the coop form of SC itself (produces no services, owns ¿no? assets, has no paid workers, provides no livelihood, has almost no revenue, distributes no surplus). OK, I'm being provocative. But the nature of SC is not exactly obvious? II suspect that moving out into the 'broader context', as Nick suggests, could enable us to remain fuzzy, talking vague Values and Principles. I do like the broad context, but I'd be glad if we got rather specific here, about organisational form and actual operations.

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mike_hales Tue 11 Feb 2020 9:17PM

Here is a pdf version of the Modelv3.0 - I wanted something I could mark up with notes. This might serve as a shared reference version, since it has page numbers?

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Nick Sellen
Yes
Tue 11 Feb 2020 1:48PM

I'm interested in both, I'm not actually sure what the format of the reading group is, as I didn't participate before, but I would be interested in a session per chapter of the manifesto (or section of the Model doc), as there are so many links from it. To put it in the broadest context. A deep reading of just the Model would miss out this broader context, which seems useful, given that most organisations are not operating anywhere close to this model.

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Ana Ulin
Yes
Mon 10 Feb 2020 11:42PM

Agreed with everyone else that Model v3.0 seems like a deeper read, although I would be in for either (or both).

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Jonathan Bean
Yes
Mon 10 Feb 2020 1:55PM

Model 3.0 does seem more relevant than the manifesto.

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Leo Sammallahti
Yes
Sun 9 Feb 2020 10:09PM

Yes, if we can have discussion in WeCo, WeCo will donate 1$ for Social Coop per person participating, whether by making a post or commenting on an existing thread. Here are more details.

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Don Blair
Yes
Sun 9 Feb 2020 6:29PM

Thanks so much for this! Both versions look interesting, I'd be up to discuss either of them --- but all for digging into Model3.0 if that's what others are most interested in. Cheers!

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Bob Haugen
Yes
Sun 9 Feb 2020 4:20PM

Model3.0 please.

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