Rules and Processes for our use of Loomio

Press releases are in my understanding, areas where we draft political statements relevant to our policies. When we have had issues with previous communications managers being uncontactable, I have had a couple of press releases I wrote never getting released.
Where the communications manager comes in, is checking the Press Release, then mass email of the news organisations.

@hubatmcjuhes the rationale for making the Communications group not publicly visible is that it was set up for collaborative drafting of media releases. It seemed sensible to do this behind close doors, in case unfriendly media started quoting from unfinished press releases. Any Pirate member on the Main Loomio group can join the group.

We should probably set up rules on how to exclude system abusers e.g. spammers. Moderators could suspend a member who then has the right to appeal to the whole loomio group for example.

What would be a quorum for a Loomio decison to be valid? If one person votes for a policy and no one votes against or abstains does it become PPNZ policy?

@strypey How can a member join? I don't seem to find a way to do so.

https://my.pirateparty.org.nz/ - though we're short on admin so it's still a very slow process

Spammers won't be a problem in our Loomio group, as only financial members of the party are allowed to participate. This is one thing that makes Loomio a significant improvement on the old Forum, as well as eliminating spam, it obliges people to put their money where their mouth is, and take their participation seriously.

From Pirate News international

"Pirate Party of New Zealand Piratecamp. February 28, 2014
The small seaside town of Otaki saw the first Pirate Camp held by the Pirate Party of New Zealand over the weekend of 21-23 February 2014. The attendees decided to concentrate on planning for the upcoming elections and how to use that to attract more members. They also decided to plan a revision of the Party’s constitution which gives ultimate decision making power to the board and not the general assembly. This and other questionable provisions were implemented to get the Party off the ground. Also to revisit the ‘core principles’ which are very narrowly defined and rather hesitant in formulation."

Looks like we have just become famous for being undemocratic.
How the fuck can three people change the constitution? Answer they cant. Still haven't heard or seen a report from the people that went but they have done a press release WTF?

Please, @robueberfeldt, can you provide a link to the source of that text you are citing? I am not convinced that your citing is correct.

As one of the attendees of the camp I can ensure you that many things have been discussed, but nothing at all has been 'implemented' at that camp. How would that be possible?
If there was anything that has been decided on, then it was: to present this and that thought or idea to the broader community of the party to discuss.

That the parties constitution needs to be revised is nothing new, though. This has been expressed very clearly when the constitution of the Wellington chapter has been agreed upon end of last year. It expresses the need to revise the national constitution as it will expire otherwise.

There is no need for conspirational theories. This camp was not supposed to be a meeting of only four (not three) members. Everyone was invited, 11 have booked and 7 have cancelled their booking (leaving only four to pay for the venue).
Now you want to blame those three to four who have actually been there for actually having been talking to each other? What do you expect would there be to report? What significance would such a report of such a tiny gathering have? You gave the answer already: there is none. This is also thanks to - well - for example, your absence.

I am sorry if I sound rude, but frankly I am actually still very disappointed about the lack of attendance at the camp. I was hoping to meet most of the active members for the first time and had some hope that we would seed some ideas together and to see some grand thoughts to flourish. This didn't happen to the expected degree. And now I am absolutely not prepared to eat shit for having been there, only because others have decided to not have.

I do not accept your upper case yelling!

Civility should be watchword in the Loomio discussions. Bluster and vilification, especially from board members, in order to shut down discussion are not commensurate with Pirate principles.

The decisions made at the camp, at which board members were significantly absent, were the intentions of those present. We will use the democratic processes available to us to push for change. We discussed which changes and goals we wanted to see and also decided to wait until after the election to implement any ideas not related to the election itself.

We have not changed anything and merely transparently reported our activities to the membership. We are under no obligation to report directly to any board members.

I will have to reassess my availability for campaign activity under the current administration. I am a democrat - in the original meaning of that Greek word - the rule of the people - not an elective monarchy or kratocracy which is the way it seems to be evolving.

I cut and pasted the complete abstract as emailed to me by the Pirate Times newsletter.

Upper case yelling? WTF is an acronym, People use capitals to signify those. Insulting would be if I directed insults, using the word fuck means I'm heated it isn't an insult. I could give examples of how it can be used as an insult but I will refrain.

http://piratetimes.net/pirate-party-of-new-zealand-piratecamp/

I made it amply clear to the organisers that I wouldn't be available to come to the parley, I live in the upper part of the North Island, I have no money and no vehicle, I take care of my elderly Dad and have animals. I too was disappointed by the turn out. Especially Tommy, David and Kirk, the first two as they said they would and pressured me to go and Kirk as he is president.

Andrew I don't get your press release, in it it says decisions were made and the press release says they were undemocratic? Were you quoted? Or did Pirate Times write there own story?