Why can coordinators see email addresses of group members?

regarding your concerns, @naught101 : I've dealt more than I'd like with issues of corruption, and I think lots about stuff such as backroom deals. One of the things I like about genuinely inclusive decision-making, including (where desirable and practical) full formal consensus, is that it can radically disincentivize the backroom deal.

I think the only problem with private brainstorming and negotiations is when people use it to work against other people. Which does happen a lot, and sometimes a little, in society at large. With that in mind, I've felt that Loomio should neither discourage nor particularly encourage private messaging. I.e., I haven't suggested or supported a private messaging functionality for Loomio itself. Obviously, people already have all sorts of tools for that.

Yeah, of course you can't stop it. I just don't think it needs to be encouraged :)

Well for now one step in the right direction would be to add a little text tip letting users know that their email address will be visible to group coordinators. Then at least users know what they are opting in to.

As someone who coordinates a lot of groups, I've definitely used the email directory and most groups I am part of are happy to share emails with the coordinators.

That's a start @alanna

@denjello I am not sure what you'd like to do with your hack at this point? I do think that's a way for everyone to see everyone else's email - but so does everyone also gain other privileges over the administration of the group.

It is just a that I'll archive once this discussion is over.

A number of concepts that I have clear about the groups: (at least until this moment)
1- The issue may be more important than email
2- Nobody is forced to join groups.
3- The groups have the right to admission
4- Hide email is to avoid responsibility ?
5- Should exist and be visible performance standards group, to make the decision to join or not.

An email address is more than a means of communication; it can be linked to other online identities. Privacy is important if you want to join a group where you agree with their goal but don't know for sure that none of the coordinators are crazy. There's a lot of doxxing and harassment on the internet lately.

I agree that a group has the option to hide the email and do not allow to be visible later

Nobody is forced to use an email that has a great importance of identity, and you can use a new email.

I have a pseudonym and more emails. I use them depending on the context and purpose.

If privacy is of great importance, I do not participate in the group, because currently, operating rules of the group, are not visible.

Personally, the goal of a group is not above my privacy.

Must exist and be visible the rules governing the functioning of a group

@denjello good proposal.
https://www.loomio.org/d/9VNFHEBu/why-can-coordinators-see-email-addresses-of-group-members#comment-532554