CoTech Retreat 2017
I've been in touch with Wortley Hall to see if we can use the venue again for this year's event and we have a provisional booking for 3 nights and 2 days 27-29 November for 49 rooms plus the ballroom and Henry Collins lecture room - same as last year.
The rates are as follows:
£102 pp single occupancy
£87.00pp sharing in bedrooms
£35.00pp day delegate rate
£57.00pp dinner and day delegate rate
We will need to pay a 25% deposit to confirm the booking.
I will start a proposal for 1 week on this so that i can get back to Wortley with confirmation or declination.
As an aside to this, given that costs were difficult for some, we could ask Solid Fund to help with costs for those that are not a financial position to cover the costs.
Aaron Hirtenstein (Agile Collective) started a proposal February 22nd, 2017 11:27
Do we want to book Wortley Hall for the 2017 CoTech retreat? Closed 5:01pm - Wednesday 1 Mar 2017
Thanks to everyone who voted. We will proceed with the booking at Wortley Hall, but I've noted that there is some concern about the price being prohibitive to smaller coops and sending as many people as coops would like. Once we have put down the deposit, I will work on different approaches to ensure as many people who want to come can
based on the information provided at the top of this thread
|Agree - 17|
|Abstain - 17|
|Disagree - 17|
|Block - 17|
February 22nd, 2017 14:30
It was a great event. Let's do it again but even better! Now we know what we're talking about we can achieve huge amounts.
February 27th, 2017 10:48
Happy to support the proposal, and as with the 2016 event I'd love to be there, but sadly can't guarantee that (and if I am able to get there it would only be on a day trip basis). So don't rely on my ticket purchase to make the finances stack up!
February 28th, 2017 12:28
I personally prefer a cheaper place to be able to go more than one member from our organization but If the venue it is decide at least one of us will participate.
February 28th, 2017 18:34
It was a wonderful place and a great size for the number of people who went with space to grow that number. If people are worried about the cost, Cotech could Cobudget some free tickets for people who might otherwise not be able to go.
February 28th, 2017 22:07
It sounded like a great place. If the abstentions are mainly around cost of the venue and therefore attendance, then perhaps we can find ways to support tech coops with less cash to come. Solidarity Fund?
Matthew Parsons started a proposal March 10th, 2017 12:20
To co-create a retreat instead of attending a hotel-style experience Closed 12:02pm - Tuesday 14 Mar 2017
Hey everyone, I wasn't going to do this until I realised that the retreat is such a long way away (November) that there should be space to revisit whether Wortley Hall (or a venue like it) is really the most popular option.
I feel there were enough abstentions to warrant a different suggestion - all were on the same topic of cost, which leads me to think that more than 4 people would prefer the retreat to cost less.
The primary reason I wanted to suggest an alternative was in asking the questions: is the Wortley Hall experience really co-opy enough for us? Does a fully-serviced venue like Wortley really count as a retreat?
Do we want something that might build solidarity as well as being a forum for exchange of ideas? For instance, a space where we choose not to remove ourselves from the obligation to cook & clean, the kind of tasks that keep us grounded, and instead collaborate to get all of this done together as a group.
So, this proposal is to:
- not use Wortley Hall or another hotel-style venue, and instead
- book a self-catering venue in a similar location
- We should still continue to collect deposits at the Wortley rates while this proposal is live, as we will be booking somewhere that's for sure. Cobudget 'refunds' can easily be made.
- If this proposal is widely rejected, then it will indicate strong support for Wortley, which I think is important because of the way the original proposal was framed (no alternative offered).
|Agree - 2|
|Abstain - 2|
|Disagree - 2|
|Block - 2|
Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative)
March 10th, 2017 14:57
Sorry but I don't personally feel that I have the time / energy to help sort out catering etc for 50+ people and fear it would be unfair on those who do if they end up being unable to fully participate in the discussions.
March 12th, 2017 22:24
What Chris said. Sorry Matt, i admire the spirit of the proposal, but i feel the logic is misguided. Time is too precious. The benefit of "keeping ourselves grounded" is outweighed, for me, by time saved. The cost qu is important though.
Kayleigh Walsh Outlandish
March 13th, 2017 16:23
With expenditure for food & time spent, I don't think this will be worth it in the end. I still think that subsidising tickets in exchange for skills (pre, during and post event) is a good option but it has not been touched on by anyone else.
March 13th, 2017 20:41
I'd not be so attracted to a self catered option. I would want to spend the time thinking, talking, listening and doing rather than cooking and cleaning. I guess people could still host other gatherings that were lower overhead throughout the year.
Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)
March 14th, 2017 10:23
I wouldn't block this but I think the primary purpose of the retreat is for us to work on issues that affect CoTech. It's challenging to organise an event like this in a distributed way anyway, so keeping it simple would be better.
Harry "Outlandish" Robbins
March 14th, 2017 10:28
Thanks @mattparsons for kicking off this debate - really useful framing. I'm fully up for some different types of events in future. Psychedelics UK enquired if we'd all like to go on a psychedelic weekend!
March 14th, 2017 10:51
It's a nice idea, but I think there needs to be more quality time to bond over ideas and projects at this point. Also, Worker Coop Weekend is a good place to get this DIY collaboration and I think most people(?) in this group will be attending it too
Harry "Outlandish" Robbins started a proposal April 18th, 2017 15:15
Get some people to start a self-catered "CoTech summer camp" with more of a DIY vibe Closed 4:02pm - Saturday 29 Apr 2017
Happy Campers! We're going to be having a summer camp with fearless leadership of Eduardo, Andrew, Simon and Marc.
In addition to the established annual retreat at Wortley Hall we will organise a self-catering, low key, cheap, co-designed retreat with a view to building/growing the community and making it more accessible and cheaper than the Wortley Hall event.
Agree = I'd like to help organise the even
Abstain = happy for others to organise and I'd be interested in attending
Disagree = I'm definitely not interested
Block = I don't want others to do this (don't use this option unless you feel you have a good reason to start telling others what to do)
|Agree - 4|
|Abstain - 4|
|Disagree - 4|
|Block - 4|
April 18th, 2017 15:31
Once I am there I am more than willing to muck in and do whatever, including tent pitching, washing up, vegetable chopping, digging, whatever ... but I've not enough capacity for the planning / admin bit just now, alas.
Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative)
April 19th, 2017 20:45
Sounds great and if it is organised for a weekend when I'm free and can sort out child care I'd be happy to camp and help with cooking and washing up etc but I'm sorry but I don't feel that I have the capacity to take on my share of organising this.