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Wed 20 Dec 2017 9:10PM

What do you envision concretly for the users ?

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This thread is a rest of Do we have the same idea of what an Open App Ecosystem is?.

I can see 3 different practical applications of this ecosystem for the user.

  1. Indepent app : Accessible through a different URL for each of them, and they could have interaction between them all (data sharing, ...).
  2. A platform : A set of apps reunited in a common interface.
  3. A platorm generator : The user can choose what applications s.he wanna see in his/her platform, and s.he create it like it. If an app missing you could easily add it to the ecosystem to create the platform that you want.

Which of those visions are you working toward? Or are you working toward something else? Or do you think I mis-stated the question?

BH

Bob Haugen Wed 20 Dec 2017 9:21PM

Working in 2 directions, neither of which is exactly like those 3:
1. With FairCoop, we hope to get a set of apps somewhat integrated with single-signon, some data-sharing, and a personal app that shows an individuals accounts and activities in each of those other apps. Somewhat like DigLife but with maybe more data sharing using the ValueFlows vocabulary and not as many apps and probably less nice graphics. Some of this is working now, a lot more to come, if FairCoop follows along this path, which is not guaranteed to happen.
2. In what Lynn wrote in https://www.loomio.org/d/3wDCtkoG/structuring-the-oae-around-agents we want to start with a personal app and an organizational app, and both of those apps can communicate with each other and work together. An individual user can jump from the personal app to the org app if they are a member of the organization. The personal app is under construction. The organizational app is a lot of hand-waving now, but could turn out to be some other organizational app that already exists.

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Draft Wed 20 Dec 2017 9:28PM

For your 1/ every app will be accessible throught different URL, and there will be no common interface ?

For your 2/ what will do the app ? Won't it centralise different apps through one common interface ?

BH

Bob Haugen Wed 20 Dec 2017 9:44PM

every app will be accessible throught different URL, and there will be no common interface ?

We don't know yet. @ivan116 is working on UI components that could turn into a common UI for some of the apps.

For your 2/ what will do the app ? Won't it centralise different apps through one common interface ?

We know even less about that one. Ivan is working out UI components and an overall plan for a personal agent app. It is not finished and has not been used by anybody yet. But the idea is that you will always work from your own personal agent app. There will be no big system. You may belong to organizations that have their own apps, but you will be interacting with them from your own app.

That's all handwaving now. Some of those ideas might turn out to be stupid.

But that's somewhat how Scuttlebutt works now. You always operate from your own Scuttlebot. Several user interface apps are available that let you see and interact with the gossip in your network (which is the people you follow and the people they follow). You have all your own data on your own device, which is now a computer, but could also be a phone soon.

It's a different way of thinking about social and economic networks. There is no Facebook-like enterprise. There is no overall system.

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Draft Wed 20 Dec 2017 9:59PM

I understand what's behind, I was more wondering about what the user see and its experience, seems like the 2/ is a platform with different choices of interfaces (even if it's not completly defined now).

A platform means just that there is a common interface that links different applications to make them work all together (that's not a big word for me).