Loomio
Tue 10 Apr 2018

Fellow travellers

A thread to post information about similar projects, ancillary to what we are doing and from which we might learn. Obviously, exactly what we are actually doing is still fluid, but hopefully will become clearer.

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An interesting patronage model platform looking to fund the development of "common goods" through the donations of members - strong parallels. https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/ Have been going since 2014 and their wiki is an interesting presentation of similar issues and challenges to those we are considering.

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I'm sure you'll have plenty to add here @jdaviescoates

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Nathan Brown (Co-op Culture) Tue 10 Apr 2018

Shared Interest is a donation platform to support development as well as investment platform https://www.shared-interest.com/gb

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John Atherton Tue 10 Apr 2018

https://opencollective.com/ a way for groups to collect money and pay for things transparently.

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Josef Davies-Coates Wed 11 Apr 2018

The scope of this project is so broad I'm not really sure what this thread is asking for?

But the first thing I'd share is Edventure Frome's Community Enterprise School - imho every community should have something very similar (but with more explicit focus on co-op and community-owned enterprise - they just define a "community enterprise" and any enterprise that is good for the community and they mostly aren't actually co-ops nor community-owned enterprises :-/ )

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Graham Tue 17 Apr 2018

Interestingly, https://social.coop - the social network run on a Mastodon instance (i think Josef and I are currently members), uses opencollective, and is discussing the potential to host their own instnace of the open collective code (which is open source). We are currenetly looking at CoBudget, which as yet has no mechanism whereby people can directly contribute funds. Would be interesting to compare and contrast. I certainly don't think that the opencollective business model is antithetical to our approach.

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Graham Tue 17 Apr 2018

Also learned through https://social.coop, from Leo Sammallahti, who is an active member there and a keen supporter of cooperatives generally, WeCo which is Reddit-style platform, is in process of becoming a cooperative, and has been accepted on the Unfound programme. Leo is an early user of that platform and a financial supporter.

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Graham Wed 18 Apr 2018

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Graham Sat 21 Apr 2018

Whilst reading lots of stuff about RIPESS I came across this excellent project - FundAction -which looks in many ways like a Europe-wide version of what we are talking about for Platform 6. More interestingly, they are using a tech platform for their deliberations called Decidim which I've come across before, but thought it was primarily focussed on providing a tool for local authorities to do participatory budgeting. Looking at it more closely I'm thinking that it might actually a good fit for Platform 6, as it purportedly provides for: deliberation, decision-making, planning, and participatory budgeting. Investigating more closely. Looks to be quite widely used by local authorities in Catalunya, as well as Barcelona City Council and Helsinki City Council (the word 'decidim' means "let's decide" in Catalan).

MS(

I've been contacted by Andrew Ward of Incubator Co-op who look to be doing something similar in Australia. Andrew will be at Open 2018.

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I've also just joined the P2P Foundation Wiki which is a crowdsourced collection of resources around Per to Peer (P2P) collaboration. A Platform 6 wiki is one of the ways that we could crowdsource the definitive collection of co-operative development resources.

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Graham Thu 5 Jul 2018

I know that Nathan schneider is involved in the https://start.coop project in North America, and will also be at the event in London. There may be others, including Unfound people (I assume that project will be planning/considering a repeat exercise?). Maybe we should try to organise an informal gathering?

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Graham Thu 5 Jul 2018

Happy to set up a wiki, or perhaps a wiki-ish area within the p6 website. Tell me a bit more about how you see it being used?

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I was just about to ask you if we could easily do that.

Wiki MVP1

Purpose

To provide a dynamic and up to date crowd-sourced central
resource for documents, links, providers, research, funding
related to co-operative development

  • Public facing

  • P6 members can edit and create content

  • Non-members can suggest content

At the very least it would provide an easy way for me to refer to
the many resources I am continually referencing.

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It could also drive interest to P6

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Probably best that there is an option to be a member of the Wiki without being a subscribing P6 member.

I'm happy to start populating a Wiki

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Graham Thu 5 Jul 2018

I've sent a message to Nathan. I'm also in email dialogue with Greg Brodsky from start.coop so I'll mention it to him. Who's coming from Australia? Anthony McMullen?

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Graham Thu 5 Jul 2018

Oh, no I see you've named Andrew Ward. Doh!

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Ian Snaith Thu 5 Jul 2018

Wide access to the wiki would be great. I'd like to learn more about this whole project.

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Graham Sat 7 Jul 2018

Nathan has responded positively to the idea of a meet up with us and incubator.coop.

I've also been in touch with Alanna Irving (Loomio co-founder, Enspiralist) now part of Open Collective. I was talking to her about 'Cooperation as a Service' perhaps as a development for Open Collective, perhaps in collaboration with Platform6, start.coop, incubator.coop. She is keen, and has also been having similar conversations with Nathan. Convergence is happening! She sent me this link to a doc by Nathan. Look familiar?
https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/tdx3_1GwdAF1RymndPCT1fT1ik-VVV-35-3Od20XeSW

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Graham Sat 7 Jul 2018

I've asked if anyone from Open Collective will be at the conference.

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Graham Sun 8 Jul 2018

If you log in at https://platform6.coop/user you should now have access to create wiki pages. Start at https://platform6.coop/wiki/platform-6-wiki
Still some niceties to add in there in terms of user interface, but it lookd broadly functional. Also seems to be running a bit slow, for me at least, so I may need to beef things up and/or tweak some config

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Cheers Graham. Can log in OK. Probably worth a chat before I
start creating. I'd like to make it open to non-members too once
it has some content.

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I can't get the Sandstorm doc to load - do I need to create an account first?

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Graham Sun 8 Jul 2018

It's working for me without doing anything. Takes a few seconds to load, mind you.

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Graham Sun 8 Jul 2018

No worries. Just start writing. That's the hard bit. All else is fixable.

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I'll need to know how to upload files @graham2

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Graham Sun 8 Jul 2018

I've added a file attachment/upload field to the wiki page creation/edit form. You should be able to upload files of the specified types and max size. Once uploaded the page will display the url of the uploaded file, which you can then choose to embed in your text as a hyperlink.

I'll probably add a simple WYSIWYG editing toolbar in due course to the body field to make life a bit easier for formatting and links.

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Graham Sun 8 Jul 2018

If you need more let me know

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John Atherton Thu 19 Jul 2018

if you don't want to re-invent the wheel we have this under used wiki that can be used for anything. https://wiki.uk.coop/wiki/Main_Page

MS(

Cheers John. I've made a start on a new wheel, but will take look.